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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #150 on: July 20, 2015, 10:20:29 AM »
Great. The decals crinkled up so I get to sand them out and reapply new ones. What I get for getting in a hurry I guess.

You can clear over vinyl graphics.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #151 on: July 20, 2015, 05:17:02 PM »
You can clear over vinyl graphics.

You can clear over water slides too...been doing it since I've been making decals
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #152 on: July 21, 2015, 02:10:46 PM »
Matt, it's been so hot with high humidity (95+ at about 85%) that I had to put some retarder in the dope so it didn't blush. But that made it too hot for the decals and, well, they sort of slumped. So, I peeled them off (not easy) and sanded down the clear edges. Reshot some white over the area, did a bit more light sanding and am in the process of re-applying them. Then I will use a bit of 50/50 dope around the edges and sand to level it back out then, hopefully, proceed with the clear coat, going very lightly on the decals and without the retarder. Hopefully.

Sheesh, what a pain.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2015, 10:32:25 PM »

 Been there done it, and yes, it sucks. Keep on truckin' Randy! y1
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2015, 11:58:13 AM »
Well, this thing has just gone to hell. Decided rather than accepting a very, very subpar finish, I'm just going to sand the thing down and start over. I'll probably get a better base anyway. Sigh....
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2015, 01:18:22 PM »
Ooh fun.  You'll still get it done before I get my Legacy done, and possibly before I get to fly in a contest again (it's turning into a very busy summer for me).
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2015, 09:29:42 PM »
Tim,

It will get done when it gets done. Sadly, I've already picked out my next project but it will now have to wait. Joy.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #157 on: July 26, 2015, 11:18:42 AM »
I went thorugh that on the Avenger,, it will be better the second time,,
patience my friend,, it will be worth it,,
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #158 on: July 26, 2015, 01:44:13 PM »
  Randy , I'm sanding off the finish of my Electra as I type. I'm sanding off the finish on the rear of my Olympus after a fuse repair, I said I'd never refinish a plane again but I'm doing it.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #159 on: July 26, 2015, 08:44:01 PM »
Well. 7 hours of wet sanding and I have a pretty good base now. So, the repainting begins. Joy.
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« Reply #160 on: July 27, 2015, 02:00:52 PM »
 I shot the sealer coat on my new plane this am  a little sanding & a bit of touch up & then the color

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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #161 on: July 27, 2015, 04:45:24 PM »
Hi John.

Part of the issue is deciding what to do in what order. I don't want to slog a bunch more paint on the thing. So hopefully, I can just hit the areas I need to repaint and leave the rest alone, more or less. To get the tone right, I will probably hit the whole thing with a very thin coat and just hit the areas I sanded through or whatever a bit harder. We'll see.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #162 on: July 27, 2015, 06:07:22 PM »
 You seem to always come out with a flawless paint job, looking forward to seeing it.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #163 on: July 28, 2015, 03:26:44 PM »
John, well, it will be better than it was going to be. I'll work on it until the weekend then I'm taking off for a week to go on vacation. Should be able to finish it up when I get back. I ordered some exotic clear coat. We'll see how that works.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #164 on: July 28, 2015, 08:57:48 PM »
I ordered some exotic clear coat. We'll see how that works.

 Uh-oh, rolling the dice once again? ;D
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #165 on: July 28, 2015, 09:40:26 PM »
Wayne,

Not really. It's show car catalyzed polyurethane. Dope is just not on right now. Apparently. Besides, I need to get it done as I've already chosen the next project.
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« Reply #166 on: July 28, 2015, 09:58:08 PM »

 10-4. I know some here use the stuff, but isn't it heavier than dope? I suppose the difference may be negligible.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #167 on: July 29, 2015, 11:14:21 AM »
Nice thing about Cat Poly is that you shoot one coat and are done. It's important to go easy as you can really add weight if you get heavy on the paint trigger, but typically, it adds about an ounce and a half. I had just wanted a compatible finish from the wood up. Repairing a combination finish can be a real pain. Hopefully, it will never need repair.

Best guess at this point is plane, ready to fly, will be in the 64-67oz range. Livable for this design.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #168 on: July 29, 2015, 06:15:49 PM »

Hopefully, it will never need repair.


 And yeah, that too. ;D
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« Reply #169 on: July 29, 2015, 09:02:51 PM »
So, the white is fixed. Joy.

I had to shoot everything - lightly - since I had to mix up new white and it's quite a bit darker than the original paint. Probably the additional pearl I dumped in.
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« Reply #170 on: July 30, 2015, 09:37:12 AM »
   Nice , clean lines.

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« Reply #171 on: July 31, 2015, 11:04:00 PM »
Well, the blue is back on anyway.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #172 on: August 01, 2015, 08:07:00 PM »
Well, it's got color again. A royal pain but it's done. Needs a couple of spots of touch up, but it doesn't look bad.  Now it can sit for a week while I go off to see my son get married.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #173 on: August 01, 2015, 09:05:10 PM »
Randy,

I think you did a great job with this model. It'll look even better when you get it assembled.

Congrats!  H^^
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« Reply #174 on: August 02, 2015, 01:24:40 AM »

 Wow! That was fast! y1
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« Reply #175 on: August 04, 2015, 03:13:40 PM »
Thanks, Charles.

Wayne, 8 hours of taping in one sitting. The blue paint - move the mask, red paint, move the mask, gold paint and pull tape. Ugh! Now it can sit and gas off for a week while I sit next to a lake and see how much of nothing I can do.

When I get back it will be a small bit of touch up (not bad), lettering, ink, clear and let's go flying. Hurrah!
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« Reply #176 on: August 12, 2015, 11:03:49 AM »
Still fixing stuff. Minor issues. Hope to have lettering on and inklines by the weekend so I can shoot clear and go fly this toad. I'm really sick of looking at it.
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Re: New Project - Sort of a kit bash
« Reply #177 on: August 14, 2015, 05:40:16 PM »
I swear this plane hates me. Went to put the graphics on and I messed it up. So, new stuff and I'll have to wait to prep them. Crap.
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« Reply #178 on: August 15, 2015, 07:32:40 PM »
OK, here it is ready for clear. I'd do some more inking, but I've pretty much had it with this toad.
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« Reply #179 on: August 15, 2015, 08:35:13 PM »
That is really really cool! Hopefully the plane will "deviate" from its current defiance of cooperation and be a winner!  8)
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« Reply #180 on: August 15, 2015, 10:31:23 PM »
it looks pretty good Randy,, hopefully I can see it in person this year still,, maybe Sept in Auburn, or Fall follies
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« Reply #181 on: August 16, 2015, 12:36:58 PM »

 Looks racy! ;D
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« Reply #182 on: August 16, 2015, 02:40:47 PM »
As big a pain in the ass as thing thing had been, it better be the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's catalyzing as I type. We'll see later. Got some dust in it (of course), so hopefully when I rub it out, that will go away.
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« Reply #183 on: August 16, 2015, 08:25:09 PM »
Hi Randy,

I am glad to see that you stuck with it and got a decent outcome.  I just have a feeling it will trim out easily and be a great flier for you!  Good luck my friend, you need something good to happen with this model!

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« Reply #184 on: August 19, 2015, 03:07:46 PM »
Doesn't look like I'll make it for the contest this weekend. Sigh... Just not enough time. But I'll go a kibitz. I'll try to find something to fly.
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« Reply #185 on: August 26, 2015, 01:59:49 PM »
Well, I'm buffing.
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« Reply #186 on: August 26, 2015, 10:20:09 PM »
Man, why didn't I buy a hand buffer years ago. Sheesh! My life certainly got easier.
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« Reply #187 on: August 26, 2015, 10:28:33 PM »
Man, why didn't I buy a hand buffer years ago. Sheesh! My life certainly got easier.
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« Reply #188 on: August 27, 2015, 03:18:47 PM »
Man, why didn't I buy a hand buffer years ago. Sheesh! My life certainly got easier.

Randy,

Where can I find a good buffer? I've been searching but they all are too big. And the smallest touch-up ones I've found are pneumatic.

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« Reply #189 on: August 27, 2015, 06:42:53 PM »
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« Reply #190 on: August 28, 2015, 10:01:35 AM »
Randy,

Where can I find a good buffer? I've been searching but they all are too big. And the smallest touch-up ones I've found are pneumatic.

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Not Randy but......

The Griot's Garage 3 Inch Orbital Polisher is what it looks like guys are using. here's a kit but you can buy just the buffer for about $25 USD less.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/griots-mini-polisher-kit.html?productid=griots-mini-polisher-kit&channelid=FROOG&utm_source=CSEs&utm_medium=GoogleProductSearch&utm_campaign=CSE&gclid=CjwKEAjwjYCvBRC99sSm_frioAwSJACrKuPCyjbKqJqKIsFANVuNXlDg0biyI5FoqveQseeDkDhtGRoC_9Tw_wcB

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« Reply #191 on: August 28, 2015, 10:23:28 AM »
Randy,

I have one of those buffers.  Pete P. borrowed it and declared it "wonderful".  You can try mine if you want.  Also, there is a Griot's garage in Tacoma on 38th street.  They have all kinds of "good stuff" including the buffer.  Don't bring money, you may not have any left after visiting!
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« Reply #192 on: August 28, 2015, 11:26:59 AM »
I picked up a cheap Harbor Freight unit just as a tryout. Works fine but I can see that the unit Mike shows would be better. I will check that out.
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« Reply #193 on: August 28, 2015, 04:55:43 PM »
There is a thread done by Alan Resinger that details the use of the Griot buffer.  It's well worth the time to read.
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« Reply #194 on: August 28, 2015, 06:09:50 PM »
It's polished up. Has a nice 7 foot finish.The hinges are drying.
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« Reply #195 on: August 28, 2015, 06:41:54 PM »
Thanks for links, my life just got a lot easier!
We have 220 V but I don't think that's a big problem.

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« Reply #197 on: August 28, 2015, 09:34:55 PM »
Here's a pic of the more or less completed project. Turns out you can polish a turd.
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