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RD1 CL Craftsman build
« on: December 19, 2014, 01:12:14 PM »
I know I said I would start a project this month but I am going to put it off until next month.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2014, 01:17:22 PM »
Don't you mean 'next year'?  :)

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2014, 01:33:49 PM »
Yeah, me too. Just too much stuff going on.  LL~ Steve
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2014, 02:30:55 PM »
Robert
Were you going to build the RD-1 with foam cores or built up?  Eclectric or gas?

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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2014, 03:21:49 PM »
You mean another year is almost gone!!!! :o
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2014, 03:49:38 PM »
Robert
Were you going to build the RD-1 with foam cores or built up?  Eclectric or gas?

Both ways and cores will be available from Robins View Productions (Bob Hunt)
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 09:57:46 PM »
I'll be watching for that!

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2014, 10:24:44 PM »
The RD-1 is similar to the Prowler...correct?
Can we build along anytime once we subscribe meaning will the videos be available for a while?
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I am interested for sure.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2014, 10:38:22 PM »
All the videos I do will remain on the web as long as there is a web
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 06:58:25 PM »
  I think this was published in Flying Models Magazine. Anybody know what issue? i would like to revisit teh article just for giggles and grins.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2014, 08:17:21 PM »
CF858 RD-1 C/L Profile Hunt, Bob .28-.35 48" 06/91 $8.00 easy-to-build design for Stunt training or competition
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2014, 09:53:19 PM »
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 08:51:10 AM »
CF858 RD-1 C/L Profile Hunt, Bob .28-.35 48" 06/91 $8.00 easy-to-build design for Stunt training or competition

Is this from the AMA site?

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2014, 08:54:04 AM »
Just a note here: Bob Kruger and I have worked up a new and (hopefully) improved version of the RD-1 that incorporates the changes I feel it needed. There will be two version of this plan; one for IC setups and one for electric motors. Obviously I recommend the electric version...

Bob K and I are putting the finishing touches on those plans and will have them to Bob Storick to be made available by early January.

Later - Bob Hunt  

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2014, 09:00:21 AM »
Is this from the AMA site?

Hi Duke:

The original RD-1 was published in Flying Models magazine.

Later - Bob Hunt

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2014, 09:10:47 AM »
Will we buy plans and cores from Sparky or from you Bob?

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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 09:18:57 AM »
Is this from the AMA site?

No, from the Flying Models site I believe.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2014, 09:52:51 AM »
Hi Duke:

The original RD-1 was published in Flying Models magazine.

Later - Bob Hunt
Thanks Bob.  I'll wait to get the E-version plans.  I hope to see Robbie at a contest this year.  Are you cutting rib sets or just cores?

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2014, 09:53:28 AM »
No, from the Flying Models site I believe.
Thanks Crist

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2014, 11:08:47 AM »
Are there still Prowler plans available, I built a couple of them when Scott Smith was offering them, I thought they were a good little plane. I built mine way too heavy, but they still do okay. Only thing I changed is the landing gear, Put it in the wing. Now I would probably use a built up wing and save some weight in that area. Very good little  plane though, a few people here in the Northwest used it as a first plane and learned how to fly with it. They can take a beating.

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2014, 11:11:11 AM »
Bob designed the RD-1, and I believe that he heavily influenced the Prowler (?may have done that airfoil as well), which was initially kitted by Scott Smith. The RD-1 has a constant chord airfoil, while the Prowler had a larger, tapered airfoil.
The Prowler was later kitted by Ken Thompson when Scott discovered bicycling.
The Prowler is a terrific flier.

Have fun!

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2014, 02:38:34 PM »
Hi Rich:

Yes, I designed the Prowler as well as the RD-1. The RD-1 came first by a couple of years. Actually, I think the RD-1 is the better flyer of the two designs, and is (in the interest of full disclosure) essentially just a restyled, foam wing equipped Twister.

I still make foam cores, sheeted foam wings, Lost-Foam fixture sets, and fully built Lost-Foam built-up wings for both designs.

Later - Bob

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2014, 05:25:56 PM »
Here is another picture of the RD-1
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2014, 04:34:56 AM »
Is this from the AMA site?

Hi Duke.

This is the cover of Flying Models of June, 1991.
You find the RD-1 article at pages 46th to 50th.
If you want a copy of the article, please, send a PM :)

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2014, 12:10:00 PM »
Hi Bob,

I doubt you remember it, but Aaron's first ever contest was in Cleveland where he stayed with you, Robby, and Billy.  He drove the 8 hrs or so and his model was a RD-1 w/Webra .28!  He had to glue the wings back on Saturday night in Billy's basement.  He did place the next day!  He talks about that meet until this day, staying with you and Robby and spending one night in Billy's house!  A great trip for a kid!  And it was all thanks to you.

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2014, 12:55:20 PM »
John Duncan is still cutting foam and is  second source of the foam wing cores for Prowler. John cut me a set of hollow cores I will use to build SIG Mustang.Also will mold a sheet balsa turtle deck to replace the heavy plastic piece from the kit.  I think i'll use ST 46 I picked up at this years NJ Circle Burner Swap meet - or maybe B40.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2014, 01:43:52 PM »
John Duncan is still cutting foam and is  second source of the foam wing cores for Prowler. John cut me a set of hollow cores I will use to build SIG Mustang.Also will mold a sheet balsa turtle deck to replace the heavy plastic piece from the kit.  I think i'll use ST 46 I picked up at this years NJ Circle Burner Swap meet - or maybe B40.


Hi Lyle,

Getting a fuel tank big enough to fit for the ST .46 will be a problem unless you cut back into the wing LE.

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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2014, 04:24:23 PM »
I have strong running B40 - better choice? Also have early version FP40 , and 46LA,( both were setup by Byron B ) to chose from.Think I will reserve ST 46 for Brodak Gypsy I just ordered from LHS.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2014, 05:22:36 PM »
If someone has a .25 they would like to donate to the cause I am going to build and give this away to the biggner winner at the NATS
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2015, 02:37:17 PM »
Bob
Any update on the drawings? 
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« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2015, 03:46:31 PM »
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Any update on the drawings? 
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Bob Hunt should be posting here soon the progress
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2015, 10:56:38 AM »
If someone has a .25 they would like to donate to the cause I am going to build and give this away to the biggner winner at the NATS

Send me a PM.  I have two NIB 25 FP's if you are interested.  One is ABN and one has a steel piston and liner.  Both come with the R/C carb, OS venturie, OS NVA and muffler.

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2015, 09:51:18 AM »
Will a Park 15 work for the electric version? Or what is the desired set up?

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2015, 03:35:07 AM »
Duke,

  If you're talking about the eflite power 15, then yes plenty of power. 
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2015, 05:18:29 AM »
Hi everyone:

Robert asked me to do an update report on the RD-1 Extreme plans. I have been working on some modifications and additions to the plans to allow for some more modern building techniques to be employed, and hence learned by those who might build this ship. The plans will reflect both glow and electric versions of the model for those with a preference either way. Naturally, I like the electric route, but fully understand that there are those who still prefer glow. No problem.

I'm also working on what I will call an RD-1 CFE (Carbon/Foam Extreme). This variant will employ the same type of construction that was used on the Joe Nall Cadet and on the test bed twin that Buddy Wieder and I built quickly to test out twin motor systems and the retract system. I'm attaching a few photos here that I also recently attached to the bellcrank mounting thread that's here on the Open Forum. I believe, from the response that I've received about the Joe Nall Cadet, that there is genuine interest in a more simple, quick, and less expensive building method for training planes.

Please do not blame Sparky for the delay in getting this project underway; it is me who's holding it up. I just want to be certain that we've done all we can to make this an enjoyable and useful project.

Thanks - Bob Hunt 

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2015, 08:23:30 AM »
Duke,

  If you're talking about the eflite power 15, then yes plenty of power.  
Yes, I think I was confused with the smaller motors like the Park 480.  I have a Power 15 for the project. Thanks.

Bob/Robert - I hope no one is blaming or getting upset. I know I can hardly wait, but I can wait. #^ #^ #^

Bob- do you have the electrical set up figured out? 40-45A ESC? Looks like 3 Cell would give you 8400 RPM @ 950Kv and 4 Cell would have 10900 RPM, so guess 4 Cell.  You have a battery picked out? Prop?

Thanks for working on this project guys!

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2015, 10:25:17 AM »
Any update for those of us patiently waiting. #^ #^

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2015, 04:50:52 PM »
Any update for those of us patiently waiting. #^ #^

I wrote a Note to Bob Kruger and he said it should be in a week or so. Best I can do for now and I promise as soon as I get the plans we will start.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2015, 08:37:12 AM »
I wrote a Note to Bob Kruger and he said it should be in a week or so. Best I can do for now and I promise as soon as I get the plans we will start.

Sweet! I'll jump this one to the top of the build list.  Is there something I need to sign up for, with your build videos? If, so where?

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2015, 09:12:08 PM »
I wrote a Note to Bob Kruger and he said it should be in a week or so. Best I can do for now and I promise as soon as I get the plans we will start.

Sparky,
Any chance there is a bill of materials, primarily for wood, available for pre-ordering?
I should have all I need, but you never know.
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2015, 10:39:32 PM »
Sparky,
Any chance there is a bill of materials, primarily for wood, available for pre-ordering?
I should have all I need, but you never know.
thx,
Roger V.

I dont have the plans yet so I don't know. I will send Bob Kruger another message but I know he's quite busy
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2015, 07:01:34 PM »
Sparky,
Any chance there is a bill of materials, primarily for wood, available for pre-ordering?
I should have all I need, but you never know.
thx,
Roger V.

Might StuntHanger Hobby consider assembling a wood and hardware pack?
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2015, 02:27:02 PM »
Aaron and I built an RD-1 a couple years ago (his second) and used a built up wing.  It is an excellent flying model had has had a couple engines on it.  First was a Leo .37 (UK) from Scott Riese, a TT.36 from Randy Smith and a TT .36 from the Late Byron Barker.  His original was a foam wing and used a Webra .28 from Bob Hunt! ;D  Very easy to fly well, and leaves nothing to be desired.

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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2015, 05:16:03 AM »
Good morning
Are there more videos to watch as a paying member to craftmans series and what's on you tube
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« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2015, 05:43:15 AM »
I'm working on  it
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2015, 05:58:24 AM »
I am not a paying member yet.  Is there more on the paying side.  Or same as what's on you tube    Sorry for bother robert
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Re: RD1 CL Craftsman build
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2015, 12:11:59 PM »
Well I do not have plans for the RD1 so what I am going to do is another build starting today. 50% here and 50% on CLC. I will be extending membership on CLC 1 year for those who are already registered there. I am am 5 months late on the next project. So look for the next videos in a few days to start to roll out.
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