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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2014, 03:14:53 AM »
The next step will be to find a perfect flying site only to be told that it can't be used for model planes.

Oh how I know how this works...ugh!  :-[

Yes, that's precisely what happened.  Keith and Kenny went to the field this morning and found mowing and rolling in progress.  The lady in charge then told them that flying is forbidden until Thursday.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2014, 10:39:46 AM »
Yes, that's precisely what happened.  Keith and Kenny went to the field this morning and found mowing and rolling in progress.  The lady in charge then told them that flying is forbidden until Thursday.

Clearly, Howard, They simply don't want you guys to mess up the field by sprinkling it with all those electrons.

They probably don't want you to practice either...at least not without the risk of damaging you airplanes...I'm sure the local guys have some sweet practice field tucked away where they are flying.

They say adversity makes the victory sweeter...uhhh I wouldn't know...I haven't had any victories in a long time, but you guys will overcome and WIN!

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2014, 04:02:25 PM »
Well, if you can't fly then maximum rest is in order.

BTW, have not heard about Orestes arriving.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2014, 08:15:16 PM »
Orestes left today.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2014, 08:15:33 PM »
Orestes left today.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2014, 08:38:57 PM »
Field is ready starting today. 
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2014, 08:42:51 PM »

 It's "ready", but can you use it yet? Hopefully it cleaned up nicely for you guys.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2014, 08:47:53 PM »
Howard - I saw your Nats flights - I don't think you need to be concerned about practice.

I always like the naive approach when it comes to unauthorized flying.

Battery up, roll lines out, start flying - until someone walks up to you and says " YOU cannot fly here "

Reply - Yes ,Yes flying here I am thankyou.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2014, 09:26:37 PM »
Maybe slide someone a few Euros when no one else is looking and you can all of sudden have access to an otherwise forbidden spot...  hahahaha just kidding.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2014, 10:38:18 PM »
Euros......No

Vodka......YES


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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2014, 04:57:48 AM »
Sorry if it appears that way. It's just my disdain for the WC organizers. They KNOW people are coming. They know WHEN people are coming, yet they can't get their act together enough to have the facilities ready. That's the way it has been for too many cycles now.
Hear, hear...
Remember Paul, in 2008, when young Minato tumbled from the pilot's circle into the grass?
Same WC, several times I had to jump all over the place to prevent my model from ending up in the trees there.
Who in his right mind puts a stunt circle next to massive 80 ft trees, or having the center a 1 ft step above the rest?

This made me decide to throw in the towel, as I want to 'battle' ;) my fellow competitors, not circumstances set up for us by inadequate organizers...
For some reason its always TR and Speed oriented people organizing Stunt, having no clue about the requirements and thus messing up big time....
One can always choose contests, but EC and WC we have to do with what we are being served...
I'd say, this should be a nr. 1 priority for CIAM, to scrutinize any offer for possible screw-ups.

@Howard:
See you in a few days, I'll be coaching my fellow Dutch and at least one Brit.
If you'd need help, I'll be there for you guys too, of course.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2014, 05:11:49 AM »
We went the first official F2D WC in Liverpool.  The local club put out a map of practice sites.

We went to get dialed in in one of the parks.  I don't believe the local club had permission #1.  Some locals loved it.  Others hated it.

Old English lady waving a shillelagh - "that things sounds TERRIBLE!!"

Response:  "Yeah, I agree.  It's a bit over compressed, but we're working on it."
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2014, 05:33:37 AM »

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2014, 06:44:14 AM »
Well, if you can't fly then maximum rest is in order.

BTW, have not heard about Orestes arriving.

I talked to him yesterday as he waited for his next flight in Atlanta. I informed him that he was not missing anything because the team had not found a place to fly yet. He was not surprised...

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2014, 06:55:15 AM »
Went flying today.  All's well with me, except I had to bump the RPM up a lot.  Kenny's gear were too short for the grass field and probably too far aft.  He flung a prop blade and blew the nose off his airplane.  We came back to get supplies and fix the plane.  Fix is progressing well.  He should be good for the World Cup contest tomorrow.  I hope he can fly tonight to check the fix.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2014, 08:22:48 AM »
Just remember when in Poland to be careful when looking for a practice site.  Avoid vacant landing strips with old WW1 Polish fighters.  Whatever you do - DO NOT take pictures.   S?P

If you do, we'll have to get a wise old editor to come help you out.


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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2014, 09:29:17 AM »
Went flying today.  All's well with me, except I had to bump the RPM up a lot.  Kenny's gear were too short for the grass field and probably too far aft.  He flung a prop blade and blew the nose off his airplane.  We came back to get supplies and fix the plane.  Fix is progressing well.  He should be good for the World Cup contest tomorrow.  I hope he can fly tonight to check the fix.

You were lucky that you were electric fliers.
I heard that there was NO fuel supply from the organizer of the World Cup event as of today.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2014, 10:13:56 AM »

"snip"

...I'm sure the local guys have some sweet practice field tucked away where they are flying.

"snip"
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Hey P.W.,  Remember China?  The Chinese team had rooms at the field and everyone else was in the Shanghai Olympic Hotel and 11 miles (two hours by police escorted bus ride!) from the field.  By the time the first outsiders arrived the Chinese Team were rolling up their lines and done for the day.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2014, 10:55:21 AM »
Just remember when in Poland to be careful when looking for a practice site.  Avoid vacant landing strips with old WW1 Polish fighters.  Whatever you do - DO NOT take pictures.   S?P

If you do, we'll have to get a wise old editor to come help you out.


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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2014, 01:31:17 PM »
Kenny repaired his model in the time it took me to change a prop.  Unfortunately, he missed something in the tail.  It didn't pull out of a wingover and is now smithereens. 

Team Japan had some fuel today.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2014, 01:46:16 PM »
Hope Kenny's back up is working?   
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2014, 01:52:49 PM »
@Howard:
We haven't left base yet.
Anything we can bring? (provided it fits in the car)

By the way how do you connect to the web there?
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2014, 02:01:58 PM »
Kenny repaired his model in the time it took me to change a prop.  Unfortunately, he missed something in the tail.  It didn't pull out of a wingover and is now smithereens.

Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

Kenny have backup?
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2014, 02:03:25 PM »
Hope Kenny's back up is working?  

I highly doubt there was a backup in his luggage. As far as I know, he only had time to build one take-apart plane for the contest.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2014, 02:06:43 PM »
Maybe someone will come to Kenny's aid.

I feel terrible for him, I can only imagine how he feels right now.

Being 5000 miles from home makes even the smallest issues into big problems sometimes.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2014, 02:16:44 PM »
Damn!
Later,
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2014, 02:34:27 PM »
Maybe someone will come to Kenny's aid.

If I had something take-apart I'd be calling up FedEx right now to arrange for shipping, but my planes are neither take-apart nor in Kenny's league.

If someone has a plane to donate and a box to ship it in, I'll toss in $20 for the shipping and hope others do, too.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2014, 02:41:44 PM »
Tom, ya gotta remember that the "Wise old Editor" was the problem--not the solution!

Geez... Will I ever live that down?  ::)

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2014, 02:52:26 PM »
Sure feel rotten for Kenny.  With the time involved his best hope is that one of the European guys has a spare he can fly........if he could adapt to it fast enough.  Better luck to all!

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #79 on: August 06, 2014, 03:11:52 PM »
i am good for $20
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2014, 03:39:47 PM »
Oh crap!!  That is terrible.  I can't imagine how pissed he is right now!!
 
I saw his building pics of that plane and it was really nice and he spent alot of and I mean alot of time on that plane.  I sure feel bad for him.

He is a good flier.  If he can borrower one from someone I bet he can fair well if he has some time on it....

Damn, I hate to hear that about his plane and his trip.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2014, 05:13:54 PM »
If no one has stepped up by now with a plane to ship it probably won't happen, but if it does, I'm in for $40!  I really hate this for Kenny, he's one of the super good guys! 
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #82 on: August 06, 2014, 05:18:19 PM »
Kenny repaired his model in the time it took me to change a prop.  Unfortunately, he missed something in the tail.  It didn't pull out of a wingover and is now smithereens. 

 Man, that sucks, BAD. :(
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #83 on: August 06, 2014, 06:08:19 PM »
If, if and. If, I will donate $25.00. So sorry Kenny.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #84 on: August 06, 2014, 06:49:57 PM »
It's hard when this kind of thing happens. Maybe the Yatsinko's could loan him a plane? I would be easier if someone local had the machine instead of trying to ship one from here.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2014, 06:53:42 PM »
What is the address to get a plane to him? When is the first day of competition flying? Is there enough time even with FedEx? If good I'm in for $25.

Go Team USA

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2014, 07:09:53 PM »
What is the address to get a plane to him? When is the first day of competition flying? Is there enough time even with FedEx? If good I'm in for $25.

Go Team USA

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #87 on: August 06, 2014, 07:22:45 PM »
Did Orestes pack a spare plane?
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2014, 07:32:17 PM »
We have all lost planes.

Some have lost them at Worlds, some have lost them in practice.

This is indeed the sort of news you wish you did'nt have to read as I sip my coffee.

I'm utterly shattered for Kenny - 1st World Champs experience, Great to represent the USA on the Team, what a thrill.

Its difficult for many on here who are reading ( whom haven't had any exposure to international travel ) to understand how easily a mistake like this can occur. When you are out of your comfort zone, out of an environment that is familiar and under pressure to perform to expectations ; Pressure from travel, pressure you feel from your fellow fliers in the country, or pressure from a financial reason of flying, accommodation, ect.. Mistakes can happen easily.


None of us can sit here and say with certainty how he must be feeling at this stage.

Even if someone was to provide a backup plane for Kenny - the point is its not the one he built, designed trimmed and felt confident with that he could perform at his MAXIMUM level. Anything else will only be a compromise.

Rhiannon and I both feel a large sense of disapointment on his behalf .. words like sorry don't apease the pain he must be feeling.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2014, 08:55:33 PM »
I have  a take apart plane used at the last WC's. That's good!

Just got off the phone with FexEx. Three problems:
1) It is now too late to get it there by Sat night to get it ready for processing on Sunday.
2) It would have only cost $1100 to get there by Monday sometime. 
3) I am currently 5 hours away from that plane.

 That's all  BAD. :(

It doesn't look like I can get my plane there in time. Sorry I can't help out.

Really sorry to hear the news about the accident. I always have that in the back of my when I only bring one plane. I wish there was something I could say to make it easier for Kenny. However, I don't know what that is.

Kenny, just know that we all feel your pain over here.

Hope someone there can help out.


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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2014, 10:41:37 PM »
I have  a take apart plane used at the last WC's. That's good!

Just got off the phone with FexEx. Three problems:
1) It is now too late to get it there by Sat night to get it ready for processing on Sunday.
2) It would have only cost $1100 to get there by Monday sometime. 
3) I am currently 5 hours away from that plane.


Crudbuckets.  Each one of those three obstacles is on the huge side.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #91 on: August 07, 2014, 01:01:58 AM »
I do not know about US Team Recovery Plan for Kenny? I think they should ask Yatsenko's if they have some spare with them for rent or so. I've phone conversation with Solomyanikov, from Ukraine, he is military guy, he could not go to WC , due to servicing duty, at the war situation in Ukraine, last group of people from his side gone Yesterday to Poland. He can't ship the model there. So, they must to   find solution locally at the WC. Igor.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2014, 02:20:49 AM »
Provided it fits it in the car, we will bring a third model.
We can tell you tomorrow morning early when we have packed.
So keep us posted if it's still needed or not

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2014, 05:55:56 AM »
This is terrible. So sorry for Kenny. Hope that a replacement is available, but he certainly will not be in his comfort zone. I assume that if he cannot fly it also ends the chances of a team championship.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2014, 08:56:34 AM »
I think the offer by Paul and the Dutch team is a great display of sportsmenship and the kinda of people we have in the sport. I hope the Dutch offer works out and that Kenny can get comfortable with the ship.

The one other hope is since it is electric if supplies can be found they could put it back to flying condition with some new parts. With Keith there they have a shot. Keith is a really good crisis manager and builder and not having to paint it could work, I'm sure they are looking at that. The hardest part is for Kenny to relax and clear his head and let his teammates work the problem. We all know what its like to lose a ship we worked hard on and you need to chill for a bit. He as great teammates and I'm sure if there is a way to get him into the fight they will find it.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2014, 09:04:18 AM »
I too hope that Kenny can get things worked out and get to fly.  The offers that have been made is what makes this hobby/sport so great.   I also hope Kenny can get through this. 
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2014, 11:40:25 AM »
I'm chewing my fingernails off...

Hope it works out for Kenny and the team.

If there's a way Keith and the boys will find it.

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2014, 12:43:30 PM »
Kaz Minato is there with a model,he is not flying in the worlds but is competing in European championships
The Yatsenkos will also have a spare model.
There are possibilities  for Kenny.
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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #98 on: August 07, 2014, 12:59:08 PM »
Kaz Minato is there with a model,he is not flying in the worlds but is competing in European championships
The Yatsenkos will also have a spare model.
There are possibilities  for Kenny.
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Talked to Orestes a few min ago and it sounded like they were trying very hard to come up with something. If Kenny can get his hands on one of Kaz's planes or a Yatsenko he will do just fine. Good luck guys!!!!!!

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Re: Team USA and the World Champs
« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2014, 01:46:15 PM »
These last few posts are very encouraging to me, I can't imagine how Kenny is feeling right now with the outpouring of love!  Good for all those trying!!!  A great reason to love stunt flyers!
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