Author Topic: New United (first flights) (Read 5832 times)

Matt Colan · « **on:** July 08, 2014, 01:22:34 PM »

Just finished up my new United for classic. Final weight came out to 51 ounces, which I'm fairly happy with. Balance came out just about perfect on it too! Power is a PA 40UL on a header muffler made by Randy Powell.

I'm shooting for the first flights this Saturday

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:34:47 PM »

Really nice Matt. Each one looks as if it nicer than the last. You are brave to do a gold color scheme, I know it is not the easiest color to work with. Looking forward to hearing the flight report.

Eric Viglione · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:47:51 PM »

Now that is one classy bird.

EricV

Randy Powell · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:49:28 PM »

Yep, nice work. Interesting color scheme. Should really stand out. Now, go out and beat up on people with it.

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:13:44 PM »

Sweet!

Your Grandpa taught you well.

Keep us posted Matt.

Richard Walbridge · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:19:51 PM »

Very nice Matt...
She needs to be in my calendar!

Rich Walbridge
Central Valley Stunt Mafia

Douglas Ames · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:25:30 PM »

The Color combo is killer!! Beautiful.

No, I don't fly the New United Airlines...

Matt Colan · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Richard Walbridge on July 08, 2014, 02:19:51 PM

Very nice Matt...
She needs to be in my calendar!

Rich Walbridge
Central Valley Stunt Mafia

If only I were about 3000 miles closer Rich, I would hand you a couple planes for the calendar...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:56:29 PM »

Looks great Matt! Glad to see you're not jumping on the electric bandwagon too, a "real deal" airplane IMO.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:59:13 PM »

Thanks for the comments so far guys! Here's a couple quick words on the color scheme:

The color scheme is almost a direct copy from one of my grandfather's airplanes from the 90s. The gold was mixed to get the shade I wanted. For an entire can of Brodak gold, I mixed about 1/2oz of Diana Cream into it and that changed the color of the gold just enough to get what I was looking for. The maroon was Miss Ashley Red mixed with insignia blue until I got the color I wanted. I can't remember the ratio I used though.

It may look deceiving but this paint scheme was the most difficult scheme to mask out I've done so far. If I were to do the plane over again, I would stick with the same color scheme but change the steps I took to get the painting done.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:01:43 PM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on July 08, 2014, 02:56:29 PM

Looks great Matt! Glad to see you're not jumping on the electric bandwagon too, a "real deal" airplane IMO.

Thanks Wayne!!

I've had more issues with my electric RC airplanes than I've had with gas/glow airplanes in both RC and CL, which makes me not want to change over to electric anytime soon. I'm also very happy with the way the rear exhaust motors perform and don't see a need to switch to electric.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:29:21 PM »

That is one awesome looking plane. Also stay with what works.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:31:47 PM »

Matt,

Outstanding!

Picture perfect finish and detail!

Amazing the canopy finishing detail around the perimiter!

Especially when not to much sticks to canopy material.

Any secrets you can give up?

Super great job!

Charles

Steve Fitton · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »

Looks great Matt!

Jim Hoffman · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2014, 04:57:02 PM »

Good Job Matt - very attractive -
Go do what Randy said

I building a similar sized model w/ same power. Keep us posted on props and set up

Jim Hoffman

the original Steve Smith · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:53:32 PM »

Great Job Matt!

You bringing it to the NATS to compete in Classic?

Thanks!

Steve

Shug Emery · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2014, 11:17:02 PM »

I too admire that scheme and the build. Mighty fine.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2014, 05:32:01 AM »

Quote from: wavyhill on July 08, 2014, 10:53:32 PM

Great Job Matt!

You bringing it to the NATS to compete in Classic?

Thanks!

Steve

Thanks Steve!

No NATS this year. We're going to try and make it next year though

Derek Barry · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2014, 08:14:48 AM »

Yeah you better make plans to be at a Nats sometime soon. You don't want to be as old as Paul when you fly in your next one do you?

The plane looks awesome Matt!!!!

Derek

john e. holliday · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2014, 08:41:36 AM »

Hey Derek, remember to respect your elders.

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2014, 10:19:14 AM »

Matt,
Great job!

Derek,
Just remember that you will be grandpa in no time... Like Doc says... respect your elders, your day is coming.

louie klein · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2014, 10:39:47 AM »

Super job!! I was just looking at some old pictures of a meet we had at the "Defense Hill Aeromodelers" club field with gramps beautiful blue and white SV11. Great power choice, "I love the smell of castor oil in the morning" Good luck!---Louie

John Stiles · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2014, 11:23:44 AM »

AHHHH....Gold...my favorite color! Real neat lookin!

Derek Barry · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2014, 01:16:55 PM »

Quote from: Tom Niebuhr on July 09, 2014, 10:19:14 AM

Matt,
Great job!

Derek,
Just remember that you will be grandpa in no time... Like Doc says... respect your elders, your day is coming.

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 09, 2014, 08:41:36 AM

Hey Derek, remember to respect your elders.

I do have a lot of respect for Paul, but that doesn't mean that we cant have a little pre Nats trash talk.

Derek

Matt Colan · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2014, 03:00:46 PM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on July 09, 2014, 08:14:48 AM

Yeah you better make plans to be at a Nats sometime soon. You don't want to be as old as Paul when you fly in your next one do you?

The plane looks awesome Matt!!!!

Derek

I'm hoping for next year so I can see how well I stack up against you guys! and if the NATS is the same week next year, I'll be turning 21 that week as well!

Matt Colan · « **Reply #25 on:** July 10, 2014, 03:02:22 PM »

It was a beautiful stunt heaven day today so we decided to fly the United fort he first time. Unfortunately, we came up a little short. As I was setting the needle, I noticed it began varying widely between 9100 and 10000RPM. I shut the motor off thinking there is an air leak somewhere.

I'll take it apart and change the fuel line, and check the tank again before I go out and try to fly it again.

DanielGelinas · « **Reply #26 on:** July 10, 2014, 03:37:05 PM »

Matt,

That is a very nice plane. I like the way you detailed the cockpit.
It seems like the canopy is brought back compared to the pictures of the brodak version. I prefer the way you installed the canopy. Completely changes the look of the plane.
Makes me want to build one. If I only had a little time....

-Dan

proparc · « **Reply #27 on:** July 10, 2014, 04:22:52 PM »

I was there for Bob "Champione's" original United at Flushing Meadows. Brother Matt, you have done him proud.

I am so glad to have you among us.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #28 on:** July 11, 2014, 03:45:11 AM »

Quote from: Matt Colan on July 10, 2014, 03:02:22 PM

It was a beautiful stunt heaven day today so we decided to fly the United fort he first time. Unfortunately, we came up a little short. As I was setting the needle, I noticed it began varying widely between 9100 and 10000RPM. I shut the motor off thinking there is an air leak somewhere.

I'll take it apart and change the fuel line, and check the tank again before I go out and try to fly it again.

What size and pitch prop? I thought you had that info posted but I could not find it here. Also what nitro fuel?

Derek

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #29 on:** July 11, 2014, 05:33:42 AM »

"I do have a lot of respect for Paul, but that doesn't mean that we cant have a little pre Nats trash talk. "

I am all with you on the trash... I hope poor old Paul can make it without a walker... I was just seeing how you would react at some trash to you.... old man!

Matt Colan · « **Reply #30 on:** July 11, 2014, 07:55:08 AM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on July 11, 2014, 03:45:11 AM

What size and pitch prop? I thought you had that info posted but I could not find it here. Also what nitro fuel?

Derek

Cyclone 11-4.5, and Powermaster 10-22GMA.

As I was ground running it yesterday it began surging as well as it was running, but I thought it was because I was running low on fuel and the motor was just leaning it out...turned out to not be the case.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #31 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:39:38 PM »

Quote from: Matt Colan on July 11, 2014, 07:55:08 AM

Cyclone 11-4.5, and Powermaster 10-22GMA.

As I was ground running it yesterday it began surging as well as it was running, but I thought it was because I was running low on fuel and the motor was just leaning it out...turned out to not be the case.

Its kinda hard to determine without being there but I suspect that your original assumption is correct. Maybe a leak in the fuel system somewhere. Brodak tank?

My first thought was that the engine might be over or under propped but I think what you have should work fine. I have found, however, that Powermaster 10% is like Sig Champion 5%.

Derek

Derek Barry · « **Reply #32 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:40:27 PM »

Also check the plug, when they grow taters they start acting funny.

Derek

Matt Colan · « **Reply #33 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:47:37 PM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on July 11, 2014, 01:39:38 PM

Its kinda hard to determine without being there but I suspect that your original assumption is correct. Maybe a leak in the fuel system somewhere. Brodak tank?

My first thought was that the engine might be over or under propped but I think what you have should work fine. I have found, however, that Powermaster 10% is like Sig Champion 5%.

Derek

I'm fairly confident it's a leak somewhere in the system. I got a Brodak tank in there currently.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #34 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:48:55 PM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on July 11, 2014, 01:40:27 PM

Also check the plug, when they grow taters they start acting funny.

Derek

Checked the plug when I was starting it up for the first time since it took forever to get it to turn over. Didn't see any taters on the plug.

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #35 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:51:22 PM »

Quote from: Matt Colan on July 11, 2014, 07:55:08 AM

Powermaster 10-22GMA.

What color is it? When did you buy it?

If it's purple, make sure to clean your airplane thoroughly as soon as you're done flying for the day, and consider adding some purple or fuchsia accents to your paint scheme.

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #36 on:** July 11, 2014, 04:03:04 PM »

Thread drift: Bought some 10/22 the other day. New batch at the LHS. Was clear, not purple so it seems they have gotten the message. Also, the purple GMA 10/22 I had been using did not stain the clear dope over white but it sure discolored the Rustoleum painted landing after only one flying session. Just my experience, other's may differ. OK, back to you Matt.

*That's Rustoleum painted landing GEAR, my bad.

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #37 on:** July 11, 2014, 04:37:08 PM »

Quote from: Balsa Butcher on July 11, 2014, 04:03:04 PM

Thread drift: Bought some 10/22 the other day. New batch at the LHS. Was clear, not purple so it seems they have gotten the message. Also, the purple GMA 10/22 I had been using did not stain the clear dope over white but it sure discolored the Rustoleum painted landing after only one flying session. Just my experience, other's may differ. OK, back to you Matt.

I'm really glad to hear that, because I just ordered a case of the stuff. It's nice to know that they listen to people.

Mark Scarborough reports that his Avenger has suffered some mild staining -- I'm pretty sure that he used some sort of catalyzed automotive clear on that, and that's a paint job to really care about.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #38 on:** July 11, 2014, 08:44:59 PM »

This is the older (like a year or so) 10-22 because it's pink. The fuel I have at school is purple.

Bill Little · « **Reply #39 on:** July 12, 2014, 04:45:47 PM »

Really looks good, Matt! Great job with the color scheme and choice of colors. Good luck!

Thanks!
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Les McDonald · « **Reply #40 on:** July 12, 2014, 06:17:55 PM »

That looks really nice Matt, great job on the colors and thanks so much for the clear canopy with "stuff inside".
I remember Bob Lampiones' original so well. His silver paint jobs were stunning!

John Leidle · « **Reply #41 on:** July 12, 2014, 09:14:47 PM »

Pretty !

Matt Colan · « **Reply #42 on:** July 13, 2014, 04:17:34 PM »

Finally got around to taking the front end apart on United and found the tank sprung a leak when it was running. We sealed it, air tested it again and put it back together. Might put a flight in tomorrow on it.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #43 on:** July 14, 2014, 01:04:27 PM »

Got the first two flights on United today, and both flights were full patterns!! The plane flies great and should continue to get better the more I trim it out!

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #44 on:** July 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM »

Cool Beans!!!

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john e. holliday · « **Reply #45 on:** July 14, 2014, 01:54:36 PM »

Way to go Matt, now go putting grass stains or tar stains on the top side.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #46 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:28:47 PM »

Glad to see it's flying well. That muffler setup tends to sound pretty cool (or so others have told me). Hope it is working well for you.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #47 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:51:26 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on July 14, 2014, 02:28:47 PM

Glad to see it's flying well. That muffler setup tends to sound pretty cool (or so others have told me). Hope it is working well for you.

The muffler sounds really cool!!! It reminds me of an ST 46 only louder and in RE form. It definitely did seem to act a lot like a pipe since it was more or less the same speed everywhere in the pattern.

The only thing is I'm using very little fuel (maybe it's because I'm used to the fuel consumption of the pipe). On 4 1/2 ounces I'm running almost 10 minutes.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #48 on:** July 15, 2014, 10:20:12 AM »

That sounds like a venturi issues. But hey, if it's got the power you want...

Matt Colan · « **Reply #49 on:** July 15, 2014, 10:37:04 AM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on July 15, 2014, 10:20:12 AM

That sounds like a venturi issues. But hey, if it's got the power you want...

I have a #16 in there now I believe. I have a #14 in my other PA that I might try switching to so I can get the fuel consumption back up.

Author Topic: New United (first flights) (Read 5832 times)

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