Author Topic: ST51 (late model) ABC sets (Read 17133 times)

Greg L Bahrman · « **Reply #50 on:** January 07, 2015, 01:13:43 AM »

With heads....Thx. bahrman at sbcglobal dot net

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #51 on:** January 18, 2015, 05:57:55 PM »

I'm taking sample engines & drawings to the machinist today. So numbers will be set in the next week for the production batch. Last chance to get your name on the list guys.

Mike Bush · « **Reply #52 on:** January 21, 2015, 11:34:06 AM »

Brian,
Make my one ABC set with head, 2 sets with heads please.
Thanks
Mike

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #53 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:06:52 PM »

I will be interested in two (2) sets. Have you determined if it will just be piston and liners, or P&Ls with rod?
Thanks a lot,
Dan McEntee
Florissant, MO

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #54 on:** January 22, 2015, 05:40:23 AM »

List updated Mike & Dan.

Brian

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2015, 05:35:54 PM »

OK Guys, machining will begin shortly on the ST51 sets. I set final numbers at 70 sets & 40 heads. This will cover everyone that asked to added to the waiting list plus a few extras.

Dick Pacini · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:57:40 PM »

Do you have prices yet?

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #57 on:** February 03, 2015, 07:26:15 PM »

Not yet mate, but it will be similar to the ST46 & 60 sets, possibly a tad extra due to the extra work for the different porting.

Quote from: Dick Pacini on February 02, 2015, 06:57:40 PM

Do you have prices yet?

Chris Brainard · « **Reply #58 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:47:39 PM »

Does anybody know what the status of these are? I requested to be put on the list and got confirmation, but haven't heard anything since.
Chris

Russ Main · « **Reply #59 on:** June 25, 2015, 10:18:13 AM »

Yes, Brian sent me an update and said that there were some delays and that the run was large. He is waiting on piston material so everyone will have same/consistent parts. It will be worth the wait.

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #60 on:** June 25, 2015, 05:37:01 PM »

Russ is correct. There was some delay on piston material but they are in production. It's the biggest batch we've made so it's taking a while.

Don't worry, they are in progress and I still have everybody on the waiting list.

At the time of starting the batch I had orders for 60 sets so I set the batch size at 70. I now have 72 orders on the list, but I always find some people don't come good with the cash when delivery time comes. If anyone else wants them I can add to the list. Worst case we do an additional run when these are finished & paid for etc.

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #61 on:** June 27, 2015, 01:05:25 PM »

I'm too curious...are the liners going to be a heat-shrink fit into the case like the stock, or looser?

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #62 on:** July 01, 2015, 02:59:01 AM »

Quote from: Steve Helmick on June 27, 2015, 01:05:25 PM

I'm too curious...are the liners going to be a heat-shrink fit into the case like the stock, or looser?

The intent is for a neat slide in fit. The trouble is we can only measure a bunch of motors and take an average for the OD of the liner. The result (as with the ST46 & ST60) some are a bit tight. So sometimes a bit of lapping into the case is required. It's the best we can do.

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #63 on:** July 26, 2015, 04:50:00 AM »

A few guys have been asking for updates.

We were a bit slow getting started on these. The liners are chromed. So there is progress. Apologies for the delay fellas.

Brian

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #64 on:** July 28, 2015, 10:13:52 PM »

Quote from: Brian Gardner on July 01, 2015, 02:59:01 AM

The intent is for a neat slide in fit. The trouble is we can only measure a bunch of motors and take an average for the OD of the liner. The result (as with the ST46 & ST60) some are a bit tight. So sometimes a bit of lapping into the case is required. It's the best we can do.

I probably should have mentioned that I've only had one (of three) apart, but with two different cylinders in that one engine. Both cylinders needed heat to get them both in and out. I thought that was pretty silly fits, but didn't realize it wasn't "normal" for these. I wonder how big a hammer they used to assemble them at the factory!

Good to hear the liners are done. That is, assuming that "chromed" includes "honed". The pistons should go pretty quickly, I'd think? I best start some "set-asides" to pay the bill then!

Steve

Air Ministry . · « **Reply #65 on:** July 31, 2015, 09:04:31 PM »

Ive put thias here as theres a chance a few of you have G-51s .

Mumifying with masking tape gets it sealed up , CRC / WD 40 after loosens the filings and the garden hose dispells them .

Cover the LUUG and The lower cooling fin , remask if nicked . Might pay to tape wet & dry sandpaper there as its more durable while whittling.
I used a rasp , File , needle file & polish with 220 wqet & dry .Needs patiance & persistance & a steady hand , so if youre not FILE familiar
practise elsewhere .
the stupid lump is from its origins as the ' 49 SPORT ' , so they hogged out the mould there .
Marking a mm up and just shaving gets a better screwdriver access , or If your tightly cowled .

theres a curve fore & aft , so the rear requires more care not to scrape up the finish , if your taking it in flush or even to the curve .

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #66 on:** January 26, 2016, 06:14:12 PM »

OK Guys,

Again my apologies for these taking so long. They are done and in final quality check stage.

I'll be contacting people on the waiting list in the next week.

At this point all 70 sets are spoken for.

Brian

Larry Fruits · « **Reply #67 on:** January 27, 2016, 06:50:44 PM »

Hi Brian,
This is good to hear. Looking forward to receiving them.
Thanks for taking on this project. Should make for some really great and long lasting engines.

Larry

RandySmith · « **Reply #68 on:** January 27, 2016, 07:05:12 PM »

Quote from: Brian Gardner on January 26, 2016, 06:14:12 PM

OK Guys,

Again my apologies for these taking so long. They are done and in final quality check stage.

I'll be contacting people on the waiting list in the next week.

At this point all 70 sets are spoken for.

Brian

Hi Brian
They look like they came out great, can;t wait to get a couple of them

Randy

ray copeland · « **Reply #69 on:** January 28, 2016, 08:24:19 AM »

Awesome !!

John Tate · « **Reply #70 on:** January 28, 2016, 09:24:09 AM »

Sounds great.

proparc · « **Reply #71 on:** January 28, 2016, 10:01:28 AM »

Quote from: Brian Gardner on January 26, 2016, 06:14:12 PM

OK Guys,

Again my apologies for these taking so long. They are done and in final quality check stage.

I'll be contacting people on the waiting list in the next week.

At this point all 70 sets are spoken for.

Brian

The quality looks phenomenal.

Fredvon4 · « **Reply #72 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:19:56 PM »

From all the other threads where Brian did this or that ABC set, my informal reading suggests that all folks who ordered were very happy

I am looking forward to Brain finishing up the Fox 36X sets

I would hope some of you add your names to desiring Brian's good work for the Fox MK IV /MK VI combat engines

http://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/brian-gardner-abc-pistonlinerrodpin-sets-for-fox-mk-iv-and-vi/?action=post;num_replies=28

Chris Brainard · « **Reply #73 on:** February 08, 2016, 06:37:39 PM »

Any updates on these?
Chris

Brent Rogillio · « **Reply #74 on:** February 09, 2016, 09:26:23 AM »

Brain if it is not to late i would like p&l for st51. thanks Brent

EddyR · « **Reply #75 on:** February 09, 2016, 04:28:55 PM »

Brian contacted me last week but I no longer have my ST/51 motors. You can ask him for mine. I sold off most of my motors last fall.
Ed

Gerald Schamp · « **Reply #76 on:** February 09, 2016, 11:22:37 PM »

Put me down for a set also, without the head. I have a T&L ST .51 R/c version. It runs very well, it was first owned by Alice Cotton Royer who ran it in a modified SV-11 and a second SV-11 that flew at the Nats when they were in the Tri Cities Washington State. It has been crashed, rebuilt by Scott Riese and has a new Bowman ring in it. Still runs very well. Two things that were worked out on this engine: #1 Muffler, Big Art Tube muffler, #2 Prop, Rev-Up 11 or 12 x 6 EW blade. I flew Alice's plane and it flew very well, and she flew it very well also. She flew it enough to wear out the bushings in the leadout slider. It has always been a one or two starting engine. Anyhow, just thought I'd throw this out there, because the R/c version can be made to work. SIG Champion fuel, 10/10/10.

Fredvon4 · « **Reply #77 on:** February 11, 2016, 08:35:40 AM »

Now that this project is concluding the Fox 36X second run of ABC sets are next

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #78 on:** February 11, 2016, 10:31:57 PM »

Brent & Gerald, I can add you to the waiting list if you like.

There are more people on the waiting list than the initial production run (added to list after we started). So as people pull out those sets go to the next person on the waiting list. I work my way down the list to be fair. The second production run would have covered the list but it has grown further.

Due to my disabilities I don't work, and borrow money to fund these projects. As such the run of ST51 sets had to be split into 2 batches as I couldn't afford to comision 70 sets in one go. The second run is already started and it looks like I'll have numbers to do a third run. So people below half way on the list have a bit more of a wait yet sorry. I have increased the numbers in the second run to try to keep up with demand. It's a juggling act.

We've also started on a run of Fox36X, OS Max-S 35 and ST46. It's busy times.

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #79 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:10:36 AM »

Brian,
Just a suggestion, why not get a deposit with order instead of using borrowed money. I wouldn't have had a problem sending you a non refundable deposit with my order and the balance when shipped. The deposit amount should at least cover your cost for material.

Bob

proparc · « **Reply #80 on:** February 12, 2016, 08:19:59 AM »

Quote from: Bob Reeves on February 12, 2016, 02:10:36 AM

Brian,
Just a suggestion, why not get a deposit with order instead of using borrowed money. I wouldn't have had a problem sending you a non refundable deposit with my order and the balance when shipped. The deposit amount should at least cover your cost for material.

Bob

I strongly agree. As a fellow stunt stunt flyer, we trust you. Plus, since you are on disability, if you try to pull a fast one, we can fly down to Australia and get you!!!

Fredvon4 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 12, 2016, 09:55:20 AM »

I also do not have any problem with a modest up front "deposit" to be used as seed $$$ ....I think it unreasonable for Brian to assume all the risk and would certainly save us the additional delays for the project(s)

Paul Allen · « **Reply #82 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:57:32 PM »

I received my ST 51 ABC set in the mail yesterday,top notch product.
Have been dealing with Brian over a number of years,never an issue.
Thanks Brian.
Paul Allen
In OZ

Andrew Tinsley · « **Reply #83 on:** February 13, 2016, 10:59:12 AM »

Well I hope I am on the list for the second batch! I was waiting for Brian to call in my cash, but no such luck yet! I too would be more than happy to pay a substantial amount upfront. I too am disabled and it was difficult getting by when I was of working age. How about it for the next project, Brian?

Regards,

Andrew.

Phil Spillman · « **Reply #84 on:** February 14, 2016, 07:41:49 PM »

Hi Brian, I thought I had signed up for a set, S &P, but in reviewing this list I failed to see my name! Perhaps I sent you a PM to reserve a set. If so fine if not please add me to your list with many thanks!

Phil Spillman

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #85 on:** February 15, 2016, 05:39:32 PM »

I know I sent a PM for two sets and one head...can probably prove it, too. I had hopes of getting a request for funds awhile ago, but I hope I'm on for the second batch ok. Anyway, I'd also be very willing to pay a deposit up front, except that it's sort of a hassle to deal with two International Banking Transfers...may as well do just one, meaning paying in advance. I guess it would be simpler for those willing to use PayPal (not me), but I think you'd get screwed for PP fees twice vs. once.

Steve

Luscombe1940 · « **Reply #86 on:** February 15, 2016, 08:56:56 PM »

Brian,

I too would be willing to pay a deposit to help with the funding. You really shouldn't have to bear the up front costs for a project that supports the CL community.

Gary

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #87 on:** February 16, 2016, 10:18:19 PM »

Phil Spillman, apologies you weren't on the list for ST51, but you are now. I do have you on the list for an ST46 set though.

Steve Helmick, yes you are on the ST51 list for 2 sets and one head.

Apologies for the ongiong delays for those on the second half of the list.

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #88 on:** February 17, 2016, 03:10:04 PM »

OK guys, batch No2 is just about ready. I expect I'll be ready to send out in 2 weeks. I'll be emailing everyone on the second half of the list to start sending me their money.

Bill Little · « **Reply #89 on:** February 17, 2016, 03:21:11 PM »

Hi Brian,

What am I on the list for? A set and head or just the set??

Thanks for what you are doing us!!

Bill

P.S. I also sending you a PM soon with some information

Brian Gardner · « **Reply #90 on:** February 18, 2016, 06:14:42 PM »

1 set with head Bill. I sent you a pm a couple of weeks back mate.

Bill Little · « **Reply #91 on:** February 19, 2016, 12:55:42 PM »

Quote from: Brian Gardner on February 18, 2016, 06:14:42 PM

1 set with head Bill. I sent you a pm a couple of weeks back mate.

Thanks, Brian, that is about the time I got very sick......

Bill

Gordon Tarbell · « **Reply #92 on:** February 23, 2016, 05:57:18 AM »

Got my sets yesterday, Thanks Brian!