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Offline Dick Pacini

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Spirit Of Saginaw History
« on: September 18, 2009, 05:16:16 PM »
I am new on this board and have found it very interesting.  I have been away from CL Stunt for 34 years, but am getting the bug again.

I have seen some references on this forum about the Spirit of Saginaw, which was published in FM magazine in the January, 1973 issue.  It was my airplane, influenced by Jack Sheeks' many great designs.

I am a native of Indianapolis and was fortunate enough to discover Jack and form a friendship with him.  Actually, I idolized the man who could spit out a new scratch built stunter every couple of months.  At the time, I was a hack who had been building profile kits and smashing them more often than not.  I couldn't fly inverted and couldn't do much more than a loop.  Jack became my hero and I pestered him often.  Never did he ever complain, but, instead, provided me with his guidance in building and flying.  There were a couple of his planes that really appealed to me.  One was the Supersonic Stunter and the other was the Asheeks.  Both were sweptwings with a jet style.  In fact, I eventually bought the Stuntliner from Jack, or rather, swapped an outboard motor for it.  I never dared to fly it for some time, but it was a piece of "The Jack" which I could marvel at.

In 1967, I started traveling in my new job.  I would build profiles in motel rooms, even as far as doping them in the late night hours.  I was actually evicted from one motel because the fumes were making people complain.

I used to carry a Banshee in the trunk of my company car and seek out a field or school lot after work each day.  I didn't have a stooge, but I rigged up a way to hold the plane on the ground by setting a heavy toolbox down between the outboard wing and the stab.  Once the engine was started, I would run out to the handle before the model vibrated loose and walk backwards, thereby crabbing the plane towards me and setting it free.  It was an interesting exercise and of course, dangerous.  Did I say I was a hack?

My obsession with flying and learning the pattern never wavered, but it cost me many airplanes.  Such were the dues paid for my lust.

In 1968, I was officially transferred to the Detroit area and chose to move to Saginaw.  One of the first things I did in my new city was find a hobby shop to support my needs.  As luck would have it, the shop owner was a modeler himself and he dabbled with CL planes.  In fact, he was president of a small local club of fun flyers.  He invited me to attend their meetings.  Long story short, most had never heard of Jack Sheeks, but I brought the Stuntliner for show and tell, along with a few copies of FM magazine, every one featuring a Sheeks design.  Nobody in the club could fly the pattern.  Some had never heard of it and some could do half a wingover and lazy eights.  Most of the planes were small kits, poorly built and barely able to fly, but the club had a good time.  Despite my status (hack) which I kept confidential, it wasn't long before I was the new club president and the appointed test flyer of every new plane in the club.  It was also my job to solve problems and show others how to improve their build quality and flying ability.  Wow.  Good thing I was a few hundred miles from home.

Somewhere around the time I moved to Michigan, Jack presented me with a rolled up drawing of a sweptwing that he made just for me.  It was to be my going away gift and the beginning of my independence.

I kept the drawing rolled up, but continued to pursue the hobby with my profiles.  I began entering contests in the Detroit area and was very successful bumping guys out of last place.  I was able to be in the presence of Big Art and his fabulous flying family, Don Bambrick, Leroy Gunther, and now and then, Billy Werwage, who would come up from Ohio.  These people also became my idols because they could do so well that which I struggled with.  However, I kept my distance while observing and listening to the wonders of the stunt circle.

One time I brought the Stuntliner and Art recognized it right away as a JS original.  I never tried to hide the fact that I bought the plane from Jack.  Unfortunately, I was not capable of flying the Stuntliner as it was intended, so I didn't even attempt a complete pattern and was able to bring the plane home in one piece.

I graduated to building from plans.  I built a Coyote and painted it bright orange with black trim.  It was a good plane for me and provided me with the experience of interpreting a drawing and cutting and fitting my own parts from materials I selected.  There were others that I can't remember right now.  The day came when I unrolled the sweptwing plans and decided to give it a go.  I named it the Spirit of Saginaw.

It wasn't long before I was cutting ribs and assembling the I-beam.  I built the plane with a few calls made to Jack to ask questions and fill him in on my progress.  Jack was always more than happy to help.  The plane finally took shape and I ended up with a beautiful plane that was fairly built.  My finishing skills were still in the larval stage.  I painted it with Aero Gloss Diana Cream dope.  Over and over and over I painted that plane.  I figured a little paint was good, a lot would be better.  What the hell, I was still a hack.  I stuffed a new Enya 35 with the small venturi in the nose and was ready to test.  I don't remember how much air time I had on it, but I took it to a Detroit area contest and entered it.  Well, it was too heavy, wasn't trimmed, I was a hack and couldn't find the wind in a hurricane.  The result?  Half a wingover and the plane fell out of the sky and literally exploded on the blacktop.  Big Art came over and offered condolences, but my plane was junk and the engine severely damaged.  I cleaned up the mess and went home.

I made another half-hearted attempt at building another plane, but this time chose to make the fuselage out of 3 pieces of 1/2" stacked together and fully sheet the wing.  Near it's completion, I happened to go back to Indy for a weekend and I brought it to show Jack.  Well, he pretty much said it wouldn't fly much more than in circles.  It was just too heavy.  He didn't tell me anything I didn't already suspect.  It was a turkey.  I never completed it, but used it as a donor for controls and hardware.

Time went on.  Jack had another new plane in the August, 1971 issue of FM magazine.  It was a profile Magister with a V tail and was a good looking plane.  I spoke with Jack on the phone and told him I would like to build it, but use the features and visuals of the sweptwing.  I bought the plans and laid a sheet of tracing paper over them, leaving in the basics, but changing the shape of the fuselage.  I also laid the stab and elevators out flat and drew in a conventional jet style rudder with the dowel rod pitot on the top, just like the sweptwing.  It was a good looking airplane and I was excited.  I bought a new OS Max 35 for power.  Once again, the third in the series would be painted Diana Cream with red and black trim.  But, this time, it would work.  It would be the Spirit of Saginaw III.

Prior to completion of the model, I attended the Nats in Chicago in 1972.  I met Jack and he introduced me to Don McGovern, the editor of FM magazine.  Jack told him that I was a friend that had a new plane in the works.  Don said when it was finished, to submit photos, plans and a write-up and he would see what he could do.  Upon my return home, I quickly finished the plane, shot pictures, wrote an article and submitted it.  

My first flight was on August 12 and I made 3 flights to test and adjust the plane.  It was almost perfect right out of the gate.  The next day, I took it to that same contest where I slaughtered the SSI and took 2nd place in Novice Stunt.  The Gods of Stunt and Jack Sheeks had smiled upon me.  From then on, I entered every contest within a day's driving distance, until the season ended.  I placed in the top 3 almost all the time, mostly 2nd, but an occasional 1st.  It was the beginning.  In January, 1973, it was one of the feature articles in Flying Models magazine.  

During the off season, I decided to build another plane, but a full fuselage.  I was determined to enter the next Nats.
The next plane was based on the profile with some changes.  I went with a 27 inch stab and sleekened the outline a bit.  Come spring time, the new plane wasn't completed but I continued to practice and compete with the profile, again racking up spots in the top 3.

The new plane was barely completed before the Nats and the dope was still damp when I loaded the station wagon for the trip to Oshkosh.  The model hadn't been flown yet, but my intention was to get some practice and trim flights in prior to the first day of competition.  I actually put the tape stripes on in the motel.  The model was finally finished and dubbed the Free Spirit.

As luck would have it, I never got practice.  To make matters worse, I drew the #1 flight on my qualifying circle.  I had never been so nervous in my life.  My first Nats, brand new plane, never flown before, now in front of the finest group of model pilots in the country... and I was first to fly.

I did my best and the plane actually flew fairly well, but I was scared to death and left as soon as I rolled my lines in.  As it turned out, I was very lucky and the judges were either cold or generous or a combination of same. Gene Shaffer drew the number 2 spot and his flight scored not much further from me, not because I was that good, but the judges had probably warmed up a bit.  At the end of the day, I had qualified.  The finals were predictable.  I was last in 18th place, but at least I was in the finals.  It was truly beginner's luck.

During that Nats, I had the good fortune to meet Bob Hunt, also at his first Nats.  He had a gorgeous plane named the Genesis that he had designed and built with his own foam wing and finished with polyester resin.  The plane was extremely light, I believe in the mid to high 30's.  I talked to Bob at great length and asked if he would build a wing for me from my rib profile.  He agreed and gave me his address to send it to.  The price was $30, if I recall.

The Nats ended and I went home floating on a cloud.  It was the last week of my vacation and I was winding down.  On August 15, 1973, my wife and I went to a movie in a local mall.  I had not been there before and was daydreaming a bit when we went to enter the cinema, which was surrounded by non reflective plate glass.  I hesitated for a moment to read a poster and then turned to enter the theater.  What I believed to be an open lobby was actually glass and I walked through it, breaking a gaping hole that cut me from my neck down to my legs.  The most serious wounds were from a long piece that entered my right armpit and another that cut across the extensor tendons in my right hand.  My knees were opened up and resembled hamburger.  I ended up in the hospital and was released hours later, stitched and taped like a mummy.  My hand was repaired with steel wires but they said it would be a long time before I could use it again and I would require PT.  I would be doped up for months.

To be continued...
« Last Edit: September 19, 2009, 10:45:43 AM by Dick Pacini »
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Re: Spirit Of Saginaw History
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 07:03:43 PM »
Dick, welcome back, indeed.

I was enthralled by your story. I hope you will finish writing of your experiences. You know how the story comes out, but we want to hear about your journey. This forum has a wealth of experience to help you and I'm sure you will again feel the tug of a plane on the wires.

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Re: Spirit Of Saginaw History
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 09:51:48 PM »
Dick,

Welcome back.

Is "Big Al" really "Big Art"?

We have special awards at VSC for building and flying Jack Sheek's Classic airplanes. (Before 1970)

If you need to contact Jack, I can give you his phone number.

Looking forward to the "rest of the Story".
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Re: Spirit Of Saginaw History
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 01:49:51 AM »
Yes, Big Al is Big Art.  Brain fart.  I have edited the post.

I have Jack's contact info.  I may call him sometime.  It has been a few years.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 03:12:16 AM »
...OK, to continue on.  The months following my accident were tough.  I was on painkillers, taped up like a mummy and stunk like a billygoat.  The glass that penetrated my armpit screwed up my sweat glands and I was really rank.  Stinky or not, I was determined to get my hand back.  Months of PT, whirlpool baths and squeezing tennis balls were my routines.  I was out of the sling and my knees had improved, but were still full of glass fragments, which would eventually be pushed out by my own body.  Glass won't show on an Xray, so I would pick at the little scabs and get a sliver or two.  Still, in spite of my PT and all, my hand was still swollen and I didn't have a grip.  To make matters worse, the nerves were all mixed up and if anything brushed against the scar, it was like getting plugged in to a high voltage line.

Spring came and I needed to fly, or at least see if it was even possible.  I had no grip, but remember, I was a hack, so I actually folded my fingers around the handle and taped them in place.  Of course, I couldn't start the engine that way, so one of my flying buddies would show up to help.  It felt really strange but really good.  I couldn't do much because I didn't have much flexibility, but flying in circles and just looking at my plane in the air was rewarding.  I alternated between the Spirit III and the Free Spirit, never working either one too hard, but at least flying.  Eventually, I was able to fly most of the pattern but it was really crappy and I looked like a hack....wait a minute...I was a hack.

Over the winter months, my foam wing had come and I was determined to build another plane for the '74 Nats.  Why, I don't know, but I was anxious to try the foam wing.  Bob Hunt had done an excellent job on it.  His only comment was that it was kind of thin.  Later on, I would truly understand the meaning of wing loading.  My wing was OK for a profile, but was not quite up to par for a larger built up aircraft.

I was still off work, so I had lots of free time in between PT and tennis balls.  I was able to trudge through the building process enough to put another plane together, based on the previous Free Spirit, but with enough changes to be distinct.  Again, I slathered on the Diana Cream.  The fifth plane in the series was finished.  Unfortunately, it was too heavy for the intended purpose, coming in at a porky 53 ounces.  That was a bit much for the OS Max 35, which now sported a muffler.

The next event was heartbreaking as well as slapstick funny.  I had flown the plane a few times and was able to put it through its paces, as long as the needle was set for an almost steady 2 with only an occasional break to 4.  On one particular day, I was at a school parking lot with a couple of the guys from the club.  I set up and ran the lines out.  I had most of my grip back and but still needed one finger taped down to the handle.  My helpers fired up the plane and set it down on the trike gear.  I waved it off and it rose as expected.  I was just preparing for the reverse wingover when all of a sudden it went fat.  Airspeed dropped off and it was difficult to keep in the air, so I set it down and did a fast taxi around the blacktop.  I hollered to one of the guys to rag the prop, a procedure we often used to stop an engine.  My helper grabbed a shop towel and nailed it as it came around.  The next thing I knew, the nose snapped off at the leading edge and it flopped down on the pavement. The prop was instantly sheared off clean, resulting in a shaft run that lasted about 7 seconds before the engine seized up with a grunt.

I couldn't believe my eyes.  This was the new plane I was going to take to the 1974 Nats.  I was absolutely in shock.

I brought it home and took it in my workshop for damage assessment.  I didn't have time to build a new plane, so I had to fix that one.  Eventually, I was able to restore the nose and reinforce it, but adding more weight.  I decided to remove the nose wheel, alter the wing mounted gear and make a tail dragger out of it.  The repair went fairly well until I decided to clean it with solvent to get it ready for repainting.

Unfortunately, I was not aware of a hairline crack in the top of the outboard wing and the solvent seeped in and dissolved some of the foam core.  The sheeting heaved up and about a third of the airfoil was spoiled.  I had to cut the wing open to assess the damage.  It was worse than I thought.  I decided to cut out the damaged area and glue in a balsa block, shape it and try to blend it in.  It didn't look too bad, but you could see the hokey spot.

I put a new OS 35 to work and tried the plane out.  It was terrible, but I learned to fly it and compensate for its quirks.  It did go to the Nats in Lake Charles, in fact it went the next year too.  I didn't qualify in either year, but at least I went.

1975 was my last year to fly because I was promoted in '76 which required a move to New Hampshire.  My new job was managerial and I didn't have the flexibility I had as a field service rep.  To make matters worse, there were no hobby shops, areas to fly or clubs within a reasonable distance.

I did order one of the first Stiletto kits that came out and bought every last thing I needed to make it exactly like the original, including a new ST 46 with a muffler.  I never built the plane, but rather taped the box shut to save for the future.  It would remain sealed for 25 years, but that will be another story.  My CL Stunt days had ended.

So, I hope I have cleared up any confusion as to the Spirit of Saginaw and how it came to be.  I would also like to mention that Jack Sheeks was one of the most influential people in my life.  Whatever success I enjoyed during a few short years I owe to Jack.


Next installment:  My Protegé...


« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 10:35:28 AM by Dick Pacini »
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Re: Spirit Of Saginaw History
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 08:13:36 AM »
Dick,
I want to personally thank you for the great story. Those two "posts" would have taken me at least a week to compose.
I am embarrassed to admit I was unaware of your injuries and that only supports the fact I was only interested in my own situation back then.
Please continue. You're a great storyteller and I remember you as a pretty cool guy.

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 04:30:12 PM »
Great, but sad story. There's a happy ending coming up, right? 

The profile Spirit of Saginaw the was published is one of my favorite planes. Absolutely gorgeous. You still live in NH?

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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 04:32:49 PM »
Great, but sad story. There's a happy ending coming up, right? 

The profile Spirit of Saginaw the was published is one of my favorite planes. Absolutely gorgeous. You still live in NH?

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Thank you.  Yes, I still live in NH.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2009, 11:48:01 PM »
Here is a shot of the plans:
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 01:22:46 PM »
Before I continue with the saga, here are some pix:

The first is the Spirit of Saginaw III which was in the magazine.

The second is the Free Spirit that I placed 18th with (hack, remember?) in the '73 NATS.

The third is me, a couple of weeks after getting into the theater without a ticket.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 01:31:17 PM »
Great story.

On the last picture - so you're a cousin of Elvis?     ;D
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 01:39:17 PM »
Great story.

On the last picture - so you're a cousin of Elvis?     ;D

Just a hunka hunka burnin' love. VD~
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 12:50:29 PM »
To continue the story...My protegé...

During my reign as president of the local flying club, I had the opportunity to work with and help several young people.  One in particular was Mark Heideman, a little blond haired kid with a typical case of acne.  He was about 13 when I first met him.  His dad was very much into the hobby; not as a flyer, but he had a genuine interest in his son's activities and I believe he helped Mark with building and financing.

They would come to the park where we flew and Mark would show me his latest kit built plane and often asked me to test fly it.  I think I splattered one of his that failed to negotiate a corner due to pushrod flex.  That would be one of the future talking points in the club.  If you want to do anything other than fly in circles, you need to brace and guide the pushrod to prevent returning the plane to kit form.

Time went on and Mark showed lots of promise.  He was really gung ho and a quick learner.  In 1971, I believe, he entered the NATS with a Stunt Machine he built from plans.  I don't remember where he ended up, but the following year, he placed 2nd in Senior with a Gieske Nobler painted ala Werage's USA-1.  I think he had the high score but was bested by Dennis Adamisin on appearance points.

The following year, he placed 4th with a ".35 size" USA-1 at 17 years old.

His last appearance in the NATS was in 1975 at Lake Charles and he took the #7 spot flying the same plane.  By that age, girls and cars had edged model airplanes out a bit.  He was playing the bass in a band and life was good.

So, somewhere in between all that, Mark became my protegé.  We became very serious about competition.  We had even gone the route of white jump suits emblazoned on the back with "Saginaw Sodbusters" which was the club name.  We were complete with red ball caps with the AMA patch, AMA patch on one sleeve and the American flag on the other.  We were into the "image" that we believed was necessary to achieve success with our toy airplanes.  It seemed obvious that at any given contest, the better pilots always dressed like the pros they were.  Don Bambrick, for example,  always was impressive in his whites.  We may have gone overboard a bit, though.  We attended one contest that required an overnight stay the day before because of the distance.  The morning of the contest, we went to a diner for breakfast and were already dressed in our whites.  A man at the counter turned to us and asked, "You guys play softball?"  That was probably the last time we suited up.

Of course, there was more to impress spectators and hopefully judges than just a white outfit.  Remember Les McDonald's "trick shirt?"  It was navy blue with a row of stars running vertically down one shoulder. It may have had a white stripe with stars...I can't quite remember the details.  I believe Nancy made it for him.  Well, I was impressed, so, subsequently, I had my wife make me a trick shirt.  She found some material that was white with embroidered red and blue stars all over it and she finished it off with red, white, and blue buttons.  Unfortunately, it was very heavy material, better suited for upholstery than a shirt.  On top of that, it couldn't really be tucked in, so it was worn like a Hawaiian shirt on the outside.  That coupled with the fact that I probably had 80 pounds on Les made it look like a tent on me.  It was almost desecration of the flag.

But Mark and I were cool.  We learned long before that only amateurs run out to the handle.  The pros take their time, get fire on the first flip, casually walk out to the handle, wiping the lines with tissue on their way, and finally dropping bits of that tissue to find the wind prior to motioning for launch.  We were a good act.  Whether or not it helped, I don't know, but most of the time, we would place in the top 3 at the contests we attended.  Often Mark and I were 1/2  I can remember a contest where we were tied for first place after the first round and the wind came up quickly.  We were asked if we wanted a fly-off or a coin toss.  We chose the flip rather than take a chance with the wind.  Mark won the flip and all the way back to Michigan, he kept saying his (trophy) was bigger than mine.  It was by about an inch, but size does matter.  As I recall, that contest was in Muscatine, Iowa.

Somewhere in there, maybe 1973, Mark and I drove to Jacksonville, Florida, for the King Orange.  I think we left Saginaw on Christmas Day and drove non-stop to Jacksonville, some 25 hours on the road.  By the time we got a motel room, it was around 7:00 AM.  I was totally exhausted, but Mark was wired on allergy pills and proceeded to jump up and down on his bed while I was trying to sleep in the other.  A few hours later, we drove out to the field and met Les McDonald and some of the other people involved.  We met a friend of Les' named Remel Cooper who later on invited us up to a party at his place.  We had a good time.

Mark ended up taking 1st in Senior and I took 3rd in Open.  Lew McFarland was there and flew an old Shark and he was with a young man named Randy who flew an Akrobat.  Of course, the drive home had Mark doing his "mine's bigger than yours" routine again.

One memorable contest we attended was in Ohio.  I brought the Spirit of Saginaw III profile.  I can't remember what Mark flew, but there was a young man there who had built my plane from the magazine plans and he had it with him.  It was strange looking at another Spirit built by someone else.  It wasn't as well finished as mine but was painted the same colors.  The owner was so proud and happy that I was there with the original.  It was at that point that I realized  I had achieved a certain amount of notoriety because of a magazine article that I had written about a plane I had designed and built.  It felt good, but, later on, I felt a bit of guilt.  I won the contest and I think Mark placed 2nd.  On the way home, we talked about one of the locals that, I honestly believed, had outflown us both.  I don't remember his name or what he flew, but he was damn good and should have won.  Whether the judges were impressed with a couple of out-of-towners who had both been Nats contestants or the fact that I was there with a magazine plane, we couldn't say.  I knew how he probably felt, because I had felt the same way a couple of years back when I was just starting to compete and renowned fliers would attend and edge others out.  It wasn't wrong, just a matter of fact.  I had become one that previously I had scorned.

Well, that is pretty much it.  I retired from modeling due to a job relocation and Mark...well, Mark grew older and expanded his horizons.  Today he is a very successful graphic design artist and he lives in Florida.  I cannot begin to describe how very proud of Mark I was when we were flying.  He took whatever I had to offer and improved upon it with his own talents.  He became a great flier who would probably be kicking some serious rudders today if he stayed with it.

One thing I forgot to add was the story of the Stiletto kit that I taped up for 25 years.  My oldest Son, Tony, grew up around my airplanes.  Today he flies RC pylon and his son, Tanner, has set national records.  His wife owns a hobby shop in Arizona.  Anyway, back in 2000, Tony asked if I still had the Stiletto kit because he wanted to build it.  Long story short, I sent it to him, complete with everything to build it exactly the way Les McDonald had designed it.  Several months later, I decided to pay him a visit, since I hadn't been out there for 11 years.  I asked about the Stiletto and he said it was hanging in the garage and had never been flown.  I couldn't wait to see it.

I was shocked to say the least.  It was covered with Monocote, had fat balloon tires hanging from R/C aluminum landing gear, no streamlined wheel pants and had a blunt plastic spinner instead of the sleek Veco aluminum job I had furnished.  It was also built with a huge clunk tank.  Turns out that Tony didn't have the time to build it, so he let one of his R/C buddies do the job.  The spinner was somehow lost and the other changes were "improvements."  I didn't tell Tony that the kit was a collector's item because it had full length fuselage sides and, I believed that some were kitted in a smaller box and had split sides.  I asked if his buddy had saved the box or the plans and he hadn't.

The urge to fly was overwhelming, so, after a hiatus of 25 years, we went to a school yard where I actually flew it about 3 times without wrecking it.  Neither the plane nor I were really ready to be wrung out, but I flew what I could remember of the pattern and brought it down safely.

As luck would have it, Mark had also been living in AZ for a few years and he and my son, Tony had become friends.  I think Mark had fooled around with R/C with his own son and Tony had helped him.  I got in touch with Mark and in a couple of days, he came to visit.  It was good to see him.  We went back to the school yard and Mark got a couple of flights in, remarking after how weird it felt to fly a toy airplane again. 

It was nothing like the time we "smoked them dudes in Muscatine."


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Re: Spirit Of Saginaw History
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 07:09:05 PM »
OK, this is probably the last installment of my story.  There were so many things I learned as I went along.  Jack Sheeks told me years ago that 9˝, 10 and 14 (the Nobler moments or close to them) and a good rib can make a plane fly halfway decent.  He said that many successful stunt ships were designed around that basic formula.

I learned that perseverance can raise a hack up to the level of a competitive hack.  I learned that if you look like you know what you are doing and your plane doesn't look like it was painted with a mop, that it might help your score a tiny bit, or, at least, it can't hurt.

I learned that competing in contests where you are not a regular is more exciting than when you fly against the same people all the time.

I learned that you can be a good competitor and have a certain amount of success at smaller contests, whereas you would probably not be skilled enough at the Nats.  That last one is very important.  Rise to the top of your own cream.

I learned that having a good flying buddy really helps you both improve and fine tune your pattern.

I remember when Mark and I realized that once we got heavy into contests, it wasn't the same fun anymore.  It was more like work that we enjoyed.  Every flight was practice and we didn't risk flying for kicks and giggles.

I learned that C/L fliers are some of the nicest people you will ever meet and they will loan you a prop or glowplug or anything that you might even beat them with.

I learned that modeling is one of the absolute best hobbies you could ever hope to have, and now, after 34 years, I have the urge to pick up the handle again.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2009, 08:35:13 AM »
Dick, a great story.  Myself I never really laid the handle down, except the years I was trying to be an F2C pit man.  Even when I was flying the twiddly stick planes I still had a control line in the car to put up a couple of flights.  Work prevented me from attending contests and getting out on weekends.  But, like you also said, when it gets to be work it is no fun.  Having fun,  DOC Holliday
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2010, 09:12:00 AM »
Great story Dick!  I wasn't even good enough to be a hack I suspect, never even new the pattern existed...  Just flew circles and loops with my dad in the 70's and early 80's.... And I did love it.  I realized it was a challenge to build a good plane after my Mr Mulligan didn't turn out half as good as the Fokker D7 he built(still have em both though).. But fly we did and it was good Father-son time for sure.  I'm trying to come back after 25 years and now have a few planes on the board.  It didn't hurt that Clancy Arnold invited me down to Indy and let me fly (and crash--remember I was a hack LL~) his Ringmaster trainer.  I got to meet Jack Sheeks and Steve Couch and a few others there.  I only flew a few laps before it went in, but the smell of the fuel and atmosphere was better than I could have expected!  So now those planes on the board (while still just a few kits) are getting worked up.  All the stuff I saved for the 25 years away and the stuff I have bought off and on since even though I wasn't close to flying have been inventoried and looked at etc.  I'm loving it again  I think I jumped off into the deep end! With 6-7 un-built kits, several partial kits and probably 30-40 sets of plans from my dad's youth and my time flying in the 80's I'm in deep!  I am hoping I can learn the pattern and I also want to have a go at Carrier. And, as a tie in to Dick's story I think the first plane I attempt strictly from plans will be Jack's I beam FW 190 which I have plans for (along with his Stuka).  I also have some ideas for the plane I want to design, but I need to do some learnin first %^@ but I am am positive that Clancy and his posse are the right crew for breaking me in!  Glad to be back too! y1
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2010, 10:58:19 AM »
Dennis, sounds like you are on your way.  Can't go wrong with any of Jack's designs.  Best of luck.
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