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« on: July 17, 2009, 10:03:59 PM »

Well I have only three issues of this mag from the 70's. Only two have CLPA planes.  They have been listed in other threads, but for here, I list them again.


Feb 71; "YAK 9D"; H.C. Quek;  Merco.35; 54.5"ws; (side view of plans looks very much like an Oriental)

Apr 78;  "Chipmonk"; Peter Tindal; .35; 57"ws; 688 sq"; I-beam. SS; take apart  model.

So, who collects these mags and can do the research, don't be bashful.  Coffee Hoff y1
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2009, 10:03:31 AM »



I have quite a few Aeromodelers.. I am getting the YAK plan right now.. from Steve Harrison in the UK.. here is what he sent me. This plane can be painted up in all Red like the full scale Barbarossa..











Yak-9U-M, N900EA Barbarossa
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 04:04:03 PM »

...could also take a look at Tony Elmore's scans of Aeromodeller and Ian Allan Model Aviation   mag control-line articles...

http://www.the.elmores.btinternet.co.uk/articles/_cat001.html

Note: in case the editor automatically prints this in blue and underlines it, there is an underscore between the slash and the 'c' in -cat.001'.

Quite a few models there in the 1970's and many might be interesting... The magazine dates are almost always visible on one or the other page scanned.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 10:49:31 PM »


I have quite a few Aeromodelers.. I am getting the YAK plan right now.. from Steve Harrison in the UK.. here is what he sent me. This plane can be painted up in all Red like the full scale Barbarossa..











Yak-9U-M, N900EA Barbarossa


The red Yak color scheme is killer!

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 11:52:38 AM »

Oh, yeah, I could DEFINITELY build a RED stunt plane! LOL!!

Where do I get those plans?HuhHuh Grin

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 03:38:37 PM »



My set just arrived from the UK... maybe I can have them copied..

This looks like a great project.. imagine Paul Walker building this model is Red... his Mustang was the pinnacle of Stunt...

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 11:25:11 AM »

I have a number of Aeromodeller annuals from the '70's, they have stunt designs from all over Europe in them, and other parts of the world!
When I can work out how to scan them into this Apple mac laptop, I'll put them on here!

Cheers      Neville
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 11:50:06 AM »

I have a number of Aeromodeller annuals from the '70's, they have stunt designs from all over Europe in them, and other parts of the world!
When I can work out how to scan them into this Apple mac laptop, I'll put them on here!

Cheers      Neville

Neville,

I have a complete set of the Aeromodeller Annuals.  Let me know which pages you would like to see here and I will see what I can do to get them on this site.

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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2009, 01:21:51 PM »

Cheers Keith, I'm just off to a jam session at a local pub! (rock'n'roll) I will sort through them when I get back! Thanks

Cheers      Neville
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2009, 05:37:21 AM »

Hello friends,
I was just stumpling over this thread. Since you seem on the search for designs suitable for Nostalgia, I can give you some help. I have all Aeromodeller  issues since 1960. So I picked those designs which fit this time period (30 years and older). There are too many designs to list here, it would take me weeks to find them all. So I have picked only those serious aerobatic airplanes which allow a competent FAI/AMA schedule and left out all others. Not just by chance there are also some of my own designs included.
60:  Skua / Christopher
       Spitfire/ Pentland
61:  Stuka/Still
       U2/Warburton
62:  Stampe/ Warburton
63:  Moskwa/ Sirotki
65:  Nakke/ Kari
       Mustang/ Bjornwall
67:  Supermaster/ Gabris
69:  Zlin/ Warburton
       Heinkel 100/ Cappi
71:  Yak9/ Quek
72:  Nimrod/ Mannall
73:  Commodore/ Maikis
74:  Loriot/ Maikis
       Kittyhawk/ Draper
76:  Focke Wulf/ Maikis
       JU 87/ Dyke
78:  Tango/ Compostella
       Chipmunk/ Tindal
79:  Crescendo/ Maikis
Aeromodeller doesn’t exist anymore. But some of these old plans are still available at:
http://www.myhobbystore.com/c/280/Plans---Control-Line.html
Regards,  Claus
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 02:57:32 PM »

Claus,
Thanks, I'll update the preliminary list.
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2009, 01:33:08 PM »

Have a look on MODEL-PLANS.co.uk  Dozens and dozens of stunt plans, and many many others! The chap that runs this site, swaps the the plans.


Cheers       Neville
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 08:05:33 PM »

I have a set of Yak-9 plans, but they're probably second or third generation copies, since my rib spacings on both the inside and outside wings are uneven/distorted. I don't know whether they're dimensioned  metrically or in inches, which complicates reverse engineering further. Can either of you measure the root and and outboard rib spacings along each wing and clue me in on the intended spacings? I'd really appreciate it, and probably can get things somewhat in proportion from these measurements.

My other question was whether the plane is classic legal. The article appeared in the 2/71 issue, meaning that the plane was flown during the 1970 season, but was it designed or built before then? Dave Day used to see Mr. Quek periodically at meets, but I guess he came up empty handed on the dates. Does anyone have a clue about the design date. 'neat and very attractive classically proportioned plane!

Thanks, much, guys.

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 08:18:41 PM »

Claus and Nev,

Thanks much for the sites, both.

Claus, I did manage to acquire a 100% size plan of the PALATIN. Still intrigues me... In the absence of the classic ST46, an ST51 may be a good substitute... So many memories with the name and the appearance of the magazine article - first tour in "GFR" at Mainz (Rheinland-Pfalz, gel?), and second when the mag article appeared, although I was then at Wuerzburg... Different wine: I prefer a good Silvaner over any Mueller-Thurgau or Riesling.
 
And of course, your sense of esthetics is superb - both in the model's lines and color scheme! Thanks!!

Serge,

As to rib spacing, I often use different spacing inboard and outboard. HCQ may have also done that. It appears more uniform to the casual spectator. As you know, I am fairly devout about the need for different panel spans... Using the same rib spacing both sides would clearly, then, cause a noticeable difference somewhere. E.g., too long a space between tip and next rib on the inboard, and/or too small on the  outboard, or if it is made up at the root, then there.

Drawing and dimensioning the necessary, necessarily different, rib spacings - inboard v. outboard - is simple with any kind of graphics program. Example - using the fairly crude VISIO app, I joined the number of ribs in an extended rectangle, then adjusted their 'span' according to the panel + fuse side + distance from centerline. All the spaces between ribs adusted proportionally, accordingly. In fact, for this example, I actually printed the rectangles 100% and used them as assembly "templates." Looks good, so far.
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 08:36:07 PM »

Serge, Hi, fancy meeting you here!  Wink

To your reply #12:

I guess the Circle Burners' first OTS rules cause some of the confusion. In those less sophisticated days, -(er, hak, kaff)-  lag between submission and publication can be, could be, or was overlooked for simplicity. By the concept those OTS Rules stated, Quek's Yak-9 IS a 1970's model. Quod erat...

Since then, we've come to recognize that January, and occasional February, editions still carried Christmas-related ads, urging us to recognize that they were in readers' hands before St Nick launched. I.e., prior to the accursed stroke of New Year's that ended one era and began the next.

In general, as there was little technological advance through Winters in our Northern Hemisphere, Q's Yak-9 is arguably as much a 1960's technology model as an early 1970's technology exercise. No great change of paradigm. (I've always wondered, does that rhyme with 'dime' or 'deem'?)

In any case, the NOS-30 Rules have a sliding 30-year cut-off, and INCLUDE all models from earlier eras. The distinction without much difference would be at a meet that runs Classic and N-30 simultaneously - you might be called to fly on both circles at the same time - or a meet that bars the same model from being used in more than one of the OTS, Classic and N-30 events.

Fine mess you've got us into this time, Stanley!

VB  Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 08:00:23 AM »

MAL hobby shop, Irving Tx. I am sure they have the Aero Modeler's that you need,maybe they will supply the information. 972-438-9233
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