I made short work of the shattered ribs. Looks back to normal. Bellcrank and lead outs will be installed tomorrow. Then a quick job recovering that wing section. I'll need to make another push rod. But i got plenty of carbon fiber tube for that.

Well that sucks, but at least it's an easy fix, and not before you really started to love it!
And, the first flight a night flight, that's awesome!
R,
Chris

Got the graphics in from CFC. RIP Mike. Thanks for all the help you we're willing to give a complete stranger. We were only forum buddies, but your emails and pictures and trimming advice got me really far.

I decided to just finish the wing tonight. Not enough work to justify putting it off longer... Lol

Thanks Dennis. However, as it turns out, i still can't figure out how to get this to fly. I have a video, but it's really no help. Very dark outside last night. I took off, got almost a half a lap and it flew in on me so fast, i couldn't back up fast enough to keep line tension. So yet again, it's crashed. I'm getting frustrated in that my other planes fly great. I've built an IC powered akromaster before and it flew great (ugly, but flew great). So I'm just not understanding what I'm doing wrong. I'm using the same cg position, the same lead out position, same tip weight.

I'm almost finished putting it back together. I'll hang test it exactly where everything was before any changes. Maybe i need to scoot the forward line back a little....

Dane,
Please check for any warps.  Bummer.

Thanks bro. That is what it felt like. Like it was rolling in and that's what was losing the tension. I really want this to work for many reasons. But now it might be a pride thing... Lol

Just a suggestion, at this point I'd be flying it in daylight hours until it's dialed in. After that, let the night missions begin!
Best of luck, third time is the charm!
R,
Target

Thanks guys. Tim and Christ, i guess what your saying about tip weight makes lots of sense. The instructions call for .5oz. So that's all i did. However, when this thing was designed there was no thought of electric systems. So maybe the instructions were not the best to follow in that regard.

I'll hang it like Clancy Arnold wrote up in CLW. Sometimes the simplest things are over looked....

I did not see - what size & length lines are you using?

Warps & tip weight sound like likely causes.  The warps part incudes double confirming that the flaps were glued on straight,  if not they make really big (out of ) trim tabs!

Like Tim said the necessary tip weight will be greater with an electric because there is no engine & tank hanging off the side of the fuse.  Can you weigh the outboard wing tip?  Put the bird upside down, resting on the top of the fin, use a box or something similar to hold the nose up so the (inverted) fuselage is approximately level.  Presumably the outboard tip will drop - however put a scale under the outboard tip (prop it up so it is roughly at the level of the wing) I'd suggest overkill for starters, add weight until the tip weighs 1 oz.  If that is too much you can remove it after you get a few flights on it.

About the CG: you said you have it at the same spot as the IC version, but the IC airplane gets more nose heavy with a full tank of fuel, so the electric should be balanced further forward than the IC.  Move the CG forward at least 1/4" to 1/2"  CG would not by itself make it turn in, but CG & leadout position work together.

After the first crash, did you check to see if the elevator was damaged?  Trying to remember, doesn't the Akro have the two halves of the elevator joined by a wood stub?  If so, if you applied UP elevator and if only the inboard side moved it could cause a roll-in.

Next up would be to try a pusher prop, to get the torque working for you.

Don't give up - success is in sight!

UPDATE! Ha, i feel like Robert Stack saying that out loud at home!

Here's a video of successfully flying the Elektromaster. Proof that it does indeed fly. This video was shot today. There's a warp in the wing in this video. The outboard wing was low upright, And high inverted. So line tension inverted sucked. I only did lazy 8's to play it safe. Plus it was pretty windy today. But i just wanted this to fly, so i did it any way!

Finally, right? Lol

Ok. So as was suggested to test fly it in the day time probably would have been a good idea.
A big issue was in fact, tip weight. After i got the warp out, the wing was high upright or inverted. Easy fix.

However, the biggest issue was no power! It didn't have enough pull to stay out on 52' lines. Again, my fault. I started with a 6x3 gws prop. Bad idea. Moved up to a 7x3.5 in this video. Also i realized the timer rpm setting was down. Again, a gws prop. They are very flimsy, and probably a bad choice for this plane. I'll switch to the APC 7x5e.

Thanks for all the help gents!