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Offline JoeJust

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I have resigned my NCS membership
« on: June 09, 2016, 09:10:38 AM »
Today I have notified several people in the NCS (but only those that accept my email) that I have resigned my "Life" membership.  It was not an easy letter to write.  I first joined the NCS in 1984, accepted the job of Nats ED twice (1989 & 1995)  I also attended several other Nats and helped run the Carrier events. I was the NCS president for two terms and did manage to install 2 awards that were to be given out at each Nats. During those years I also designed, built and shipped over 200 Carrier kits, as well as two brochures on how to get started in flying Carrier and also built and sold dozens of 3-line bellcranks of my own design.  For the past several years I have been the NW News person for the CLW magazine. 
Now in my dotage, I find that it is too difficult to deal with the problem between myself and the NCS. I will not mention these problems in this message. What I will mention is that Navy Carrier flying has not diminished, but entry in competition events has done so.  The interest in just having fun flying a Carrier type plane remains strong.
Enough of an old man's trials and tribulations.  I hope that the NCS continues. I sincerely hope that your interest in flying a 3-line (or 2.4 equipped plane) continues to have meaning for you. I hope that your membership or interest in the NCS grows and continues. I also hope that I can meet you in person at the future Brodak contests, or at the few Carrier events I attend in the NW.
Tight lines, slow speed and 100 point landings to you all!
Joe
I only enter contests so somebody else is not always in last place

Offline john e. holliday

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 10:10:03 AM »
Joe, I haven't renewed in years.  I liked the carrier event, but to me it got to be too many events.   My first carrier plane was when Sterling came out with the Gaurdian.   Had early Fox throttle control engine.   I think it was a .36.  The second Gaurdian had a Merco .49 and copped me a few awards.  Then Mr Meriwether sold me the McCoy .60 Redhead with Bill Johnson throttle control for pressure.  Won a lot of contests locally with that one.  In fact I still have it as well as another McCoy .60 Redhead with an earlier version of Bill's throttle set up.  Then I managed to obtain a Rossi .60.   Now I fly the old Bearcat profile once in a while.  Had it all tuned up for Broaks this hoping to make up for a couple of years ago at Brodaks.  Was looking forward to seeing everybody again and doing some stunt also, but life gets in the road at times as well as family.  So I will be thinking of all you folks that week.  Oh, and tell Tommy Schaefer(spelling) hi for me as he helped me the last time.   There are so many memories of carrier competition and all the great people I have met.  So you all have fun. H^^
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 10:52:21 AM »
Hi Doc, Sorry you can't make it. I'm hoping to fly my 30+ year old planes out there next week.   TS

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 03:08:36 PM »
     Let me see if I have this correct John, one of the reasons that you left the NCS was that there were now to many events? There are only 3 events in AMA carrier, the same 3 events that have been there for the last 66 plus or minus years? If you are talking about the Nostalgia events they were made unofficial events around 12 years ago along with .15 carrier and skyray 35 and all were included in the top 20 lists for the NCS members. Our present NCS president drew up the rules for the Nostalgia events (which include the original rules) including over 120 Nostalgia qualifying planes because so many of the older carrier fliers wanted to fly those events or so they said. So along with electric that makes 13 (I think) different events now tracked in the top 20 list, 10 of those as just tracking events and scores and the same forever 3 that are AMA official events. I find it hard to understand that you use that for one of the reason you would quit. I suspect that it might be more that although you liked carrier you were not competing so much anymore so just dropped your membership in the NCS?
Eric

Offline john e. holliday

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2016, 11:52:48 AM »
Well I well remember when there was only one carrier event and on the local level had enough entries to make for a busy day.  Then it was decided to divide carrier into classes for scale with the number of 40 size ships being flown.  Local entries went down in class II and Class I had a fair following.  Then Profile was started as an event for the new people to get started.  In our area it killed the scale classes.   Then I stopped playing with carrier and tried to learn to compete in F2C.  During that time sliders came to be.  Then the hanging of planes in a non scale fashion, even though at an airshow a Navy jet came down the length of the run way at a high angle of attack with evey thing hanging out,  gear, flaps and hook.  In the past I have suggested that the angle of hang on low spend should less than 30 degrees.  But, I got poo pooed on that idea.  Now Eric have contests have yo ran or officiated in locally and nationally.   Try being center judge with Pete Mazur flying low speed.  If leaving the center circle was a foul he may not have many official flights.  Billy Bishoff can do it all and not run all over the place.  But since I don't center judge any more I've been told I was doing it all wrong any way.  I will never foget the reaction when it was recordedthat I had a low speed of 25 mph with a Sterling Gaurdian McCoy 60 power at a Wichita contest.  But,  some thing need to be done to get carrier going again.  Some people like the way I fly my profile Bearcat with no slider.   I think the NW people are trying with their Profile Sport 40 Carrier if they would limit it soyou fly that class and no other classes.   Look at how carrier dropped off when it was decided that a person could compete in all three classes.  Well I've said too much now, I guess. R%%%% R%%%%
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Offline eric david conley

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2016, 05:46:27 PM »
     Wow John, you didn't say to much and thanks for the reminder of how much carrier has changed sense it first came to light. I'm lucky that I didn't know a thing about carrier until the early 90s and the only change that I have seen is the electric one. So I'm counting my lucky stars after reading your reply. Thanks I needed a reminder.  Eric
Eric

Offline john e. holliday

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2016, 12:20:38 PM »
You're welcome. H^^
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Offline david smith

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 02:41:27 PM »
WOW! This entire thread....just...wow.

Offline Mike Anderson

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Re: I have resigned my NCS membership
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2016, 10:18:13 PM »
WOW! This entire thread....just...wow.

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