Author Topic: How far can I push it (Read 10095 times)

Bill Smith · « **on:** October 17, 2014, 01:30:14 PM »

stole a design and made it out of coroplast.
Now we see if I can stunt a WenMac .049 for points.

Balloon tank, 30 inch wingspan, 7.6 ounces, BearCat ripoff.
I give you the CoroKitty.

I will paint it if it flies.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2014, 07:44:49 PM »

Looks different.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2014, 08:20:37 PM »

it's a shrunken one of these.

Trostle · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2014, 11:05:01 PM »

The Bob Baron Barecat is one of the best flying 1/2A stunt ships ever.

Keith

Bill Smith · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2014, 07:32:26 AM »

you are so right.
I will put this up against the big boys on a good day.
Providing the wind isn't too bad.
at 13 ounces and an .049 the wind could quickly become your enemy.
This one now runs electric and although it is heavier is still flies very well.

I do not expect that the plastic one will fly 1-10th as well but it should still be fun and if the WenMac proves to not be up to it I will try a killer bee.

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #5 on:** October 18, 2014, 07:45:09 AM »

I saw the original Barecat fly at the '80 Nats. It was spectacular. I flew 1/2A stunt and had to leave before the second round was finished. When I left I was in fifth place. Does anyone have a record of the outcome of that event?

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2014, 05:53:12 PM »

I'm thinkin' that it might fly better than you think! Didn't Wild Bill publish something like this in Flying Models a few years before he passed> It wasn't called BareCat. There were three sizes for different small engines. Part of his Doodlebug series? Some one help me out!!
And go check out the video of my AWSOME Cox Stuka flight today over on the main forum!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

John Craig · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2014, 11:38:01 AM »

Wild Bill's Doodle Bug, a regular profile no flaps & had the same unusual rudder & sub-rudder. Plans 40, 25, & 1/2a from FM.

http://www.airfieldmodels.com/gallery_of_models/control_line/doodlebug_330/index.htm

Bill Smith · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2014, 02:35:34 PM »

well I flew it last Sunday.
It tracks nice has good line tension and plenty of control but this particular wenmac was just not quite as strong as I would like (couldn't pull it through the high stuff) so an engine swap is coming up.
Hope the weather stays decent for one more weekend.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2014, 07:19:00 PM »

Quote from: Bill Smith on October 18, 2014, 07:32:26 AM

you are so right.
I will put this up against the big boys on a good day.
Providing the wind isn't too bad.
at 13 ounces and an .049 the wind could quickly become your enemy.
This one now runs electric and although it is heavier is still flies very well.

I do not expect that the plastic one will fly 1-10th as well but it should still be fun and if the WenMac proves to not be up to it I will try a killer bee.

Bill,
I like my BareCat. See Picture Gallery, District 5, one row up from bottom. Norvel .061 , Bladder config. Flies great on 48' lines. Will be trying shorter lines for windy days.
Would be interested in more info re your electric conversion (ie motor, battery type and location, cg location, all up weight, lap times, line length etc). I just might have to build one w/electric.

Thanks,
Roger V.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2014, 07:48:28 PM »

My conversion was done so I could put it back if I didn't like the electric setup.
the whole package was bought off of ebay piece meal and not a matched setup.
It works but the battery is a little heavy and the motor is not good quality, so I will not recommend any of it.
that said it does fly pretty good and I will get some better gear.
note the tube built into the fuselage for the bladder adds strength and if left out the nose may break off in tight maneuvers if the motor is a little heavy.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2014, 09:00:39 PM »

Quote from: Bill Smith on October 29, 2014, 07:48:28 PM

My conversion was done so I could put it back if I didn't like the electric setup.
the whole package was bought off of ebay piece meal and not a matched setup.
It works but the battery is a little heavy and the motor is not good quality, so I will not recommend any of it.
that said it does fly pretty good and I will get some better gear.
note the tube built into the fuselage for the bladder adds strength and if left out the nose may break off in tight maneuvers if the motor is a little heavy.

Thx, understand.
Roger

Larry Wong · « **Reply #12 on:** November 02, 2014, 03:41:49 PM »

Howard Yamagata's Norvel .061 bladder tank and APC 4.5 prop launch RPM is 26K
The red one is mine trying to get more RPM's to fly

Larry Wong · « **Reply #13 on:** November 02, 2014, 04:34:14 PM »

more pix

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #14 on:** November 02, 2014, 09:50:01 PM »

Quote from: Larry Wong on November 02, 2014, 03:41:49 PM

Howard Yamagata's Norvel .061 bladder tank and APC 4.5 prop launch RPM is 26K
The red one is mine trying to get more RPM's to fly

Larry,
Thanks for the pics. You answered one of my questions re battery location. I was planning on locating on the cg! :-)

I can launch my Norvel .061 powered B'Cat at 23,500 and it tachs over 26000 in the air. We have a tach to measure same airborne. I use an APC 6x2. will use a custom made CF prop at a later date after I convince Bob Whitney I need one.

Roger V.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #15 on:** November 03, 2014, 02:20:06 AM »

Mine is running a 6-6prop at 18000 and it goes OK, but its a low quality motor and growls a lot in the turns. won't last long.
the battery is rubber banded to the bottom at CG.
As I said it's to big a battery but it will almost do two patterns.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #16 on:** November 03, 2014, 08:01:26 AM »

Quote from: Bill Smith on November 03, 2014, 02:20:06 AM

Mine is running a 6-6prop at 18000 and it goes OK, but its a low quality motor and growls a lot in the turns. won't last long.
the battery is rubber banded to the bottom at CG.
As I said it's to big a battery but it will almost do two patterns.

Thanks Bill!
Roger

Larry Wong · « **Reply #17 on:** November 03, 2014, 10:39:47 AM »

What electric motor's are you guys using? KV ? and Batt mAh volts?

Howard.Y · « **Reply #18 on:** November 04, 2014, 02:33:55 PM »

Roger, What fuel, plug, and head clearance are you using ?

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #19 on:** November 04, 2014, 08:21:20 PM »

Quote from: Howard.Y on November 04, 2014, 02:33:55 PM

Roger, What fuel, plug, and head clearance are you using ?

FUEL: Wildcat. It is 15% N (see no need for more), 18 % oil(80% Castor, 20% Synthetic).
Nelson Plug in a Galbreath head, two Norvel head shims. over 300 flights on one of them, still running strong.

Howard.Y · « **Reply #20 on:** November 04, 2014, 09:02:18 PM »

Thanks Roger, used the 5.5X2 it work very good will give the 6X2 a try.

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #21 on:** November 05, 2014, 08:25:25 AM »

Quote from: Howard.Y on November 04, 2014, 09:02:18 PM

Thanks Roger, used the 5.5X2 it work very good will give the 6X2 a try.

Howard,
What plane are you flying it (Norvel) on?
Weight is a factor.
"IF" I recall, (tooooo lazy to go out to the shop to weigh it), my Pathfinder weighs 11 oz., dry.
Roger

Howard.Y · « **Reply #22 on:** November 05, 2014, 09:47:18 AM »

Roger, it's a Yuvenko Barracuda that I bought from Cleveland a while ago and I've modified to test Barons concept. It weighs 14 7/8 oz with 1once nose weight. I, have a Barecat already to cover. So I thought I'd work most of the bugs on the test model. I've flown it with a .08 Picco and that engine work very well. The plane flies very good and will do the entire pattern.
Howard

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #23 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:51:30 AM »

Quote from: Howard.Y on November 05, 2014, 09:47:18 AM

Roger, it's a Yuvenko Barracuda that I bought from Cleveland a while ago and I've modified to test Barons concept. It weighs 14 7/8 oz with 1once nose weight. I, have a Barecat already to cover. So I thought I'd work most of the bugs on the test model. I've flown it with a .08 Picco and that engine work very well. The plane flies very good and will do the entire pattern.
Howard

Thanks Howard.
Post pics of the Barecat and flight info when avail.

Roger

Howard.Y · « **Reply #24 on:** November 07, 2014, 02:39:24 PM »

Roger, Larry, and I will try to get pictures this week end. If not as soon a possible.
Howard

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #25 on:** November 07, 2014, 06:26:46 PM »

Howard,
thanks.
hope to get mine "unstuck" (from the wall) :-) this weekend.
Roger

Larry Wong · « **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2014, 01:42:20 PM »

Howard's flight

Larry Wong · « **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2014, 01:44:08 PM »

Norvell

Larry Lindburg · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2017, 06:03:03 PM »

Are there any plans for CoroKitty?

Bill Smith · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2017, 08:52:55 PM »

sorry I haven't been here for a while. It seems I was pushing the wen mac a little bit But it did fly sort of ok with a cox.
but not real good so it is shelved for a while till the bug hits me again. Sorry